Still waiting for a Western news source to call the US administration terrorists.
Acting surprised after seeing the unlimited support by USA, Canada, UK, France, Germany, Italy, Greece, UAE, India, China, Russia, Ukraine support for genociding the Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank is funny to me.
Now we see Canadian and Mexican afraid to even call the US out because no one will come to rescue them if the US did the same. And they deserve it.
Nothing lower to me than killing children and babies, so my expectations are non existing for such government and people.
Murders.
This headline needs to change.
US military murders 80 people an illegal raid on foreign soil.
“But they’re celebrating.”
Yeah, if a foreign nation did a military operation and abducted Trump to face a trial for his crimes Americans would be in the streets celebrating.
But the celebration is going to be short when they realize their futures are now dictated by a felon rapist pedophile who’s crashing his own nation’s economy and violating his own citizen’s rights.
Just stop talking about Jeffrey Epstein and Trump please.
Fuck the USA.
Trump is still a pedophile. Don’t forget that. This is not a distraction from the Epstein files.
If venezuela had nuclear weapons none of this would have happened.
Fuck off calling it an “operation”
Yes, very Russian. It’s America’s own “special military operation”.
Or like when the Korean war was called a “Police Action”
It is 100% an act of war, it’s even a very obvious indisputable act of war. Yet we see European leaders refusing to call it so. 😡
A war crime and a terrorist operation.
Can’t really call it a war if the other side is barely fighting back. It’s just bullying and terrorism.
War crimes apply regardless whether a conflict is international or even whether it’s a declared war. The US never declared war in Vietnam, but nobody can deny the My Lai massacre was a war crime.
They’re dogs and vassals of the empire. Of course they aren’t biting the hand that feeds.
Europe is America’s bitch. Europeans aren’t ready to accept it yet lol
I doubt it’s just the Israelis who have compromision photos of top European politicians fucking little kids that they got using operations like Epstein’s.
Of course not Russia does too, what I was saying was that CIVILIZED countries don’t behave like that.
Yeah, well, look at Britain which had a massive demonstration of half a million people against the Genocide in Gaza and yet their supposedly “leftwing” “moderate” government is arresting people for “terrorism support” when they demonstrate against it.
The people ARE civilized, it’s their elites (political or otherwise) which are unreformed barbarians by comparison, especially in those countries were the structures of power mean such people have been an entrenched and unchallenged elite for generations.
So I would say that the countries are CIVILIZED, however they’re controlled by elites whose minset is still the same as the ancient monsters from the past (hence why, for example, British governments and Press have a mindset of colonialism towards the outside and “born to rule” towards their own citizens whilst German governments and Press support the Genocide of a “lesser people by a greater people” and both deploy authoritarian means to suppress dissent even tough they’re supposedly Democracies).
This is also why I expect plenty of members of those elites will have broken the ultimate tabu of our era - they have the same principles of the ruling elites of centuries past, feel themselves above the law and firmly believe everybody else are nothing more than tools for their own personal upsides - including pleasure - and for many that would include children.
PS: As I see it, the solution for the problems in Democracies is MORE Democracy (more transparency, more accountability, more independent oversight, more variety and change) but we’re going in the opposite direction and the actions of the ruling elites in the US and the support from the political elites in certain countries for that all matches with the moving away from Democracy towards Might Is Right and Authoritarianism
I 100% agree with that last part but:
The people ARE civilized,
Not really, if the British people were civilized they would have introduced democracy instead of the bullshit excuse they have for it now.
And they would have removed the house of lords which is an extremely undemocratic and moronic institution.In Danish Lord and lort are very close verbally, and lort means shit. So to me it’s the shit house.
But that’s not the only problem, first past the post is also undemocratic and is creating a system dominated by 2 parties that take turns governing, this is not democracy but at best a deeply dysfunctional democracy, and is as bad as USA only realistically having 2 options when they vote.
UK is so behind as a society, compared to other Western European countries, the only way they may appear good is by comparison to USA. UK inherited a strong economy from the early days of industrialization, and the colonies, without that UK would have been as poor and backwards as Ireland was prior to joining EU.however they’re controlled by elites
In UK that is way more the case than other European countries, because the population accept it. The continued existence of the house of lords is clear evidence of that.
But again ONLY because the population is accepting it. No other European country will have you arrested for peaceful demonstrations, and I agree it’s an atrocity that this continues under a labour government. And I agree it is a result of the people having lost power because democracy in UK isn’t working.
Yet the solution is only a few hundred kilometers away, with plenty examples of better democracies in Europe, IMO especially the Scandinavian model.First I mainly agree with you: I lived in Britain as in immigrant for a decade, which was preceded by a decade living in The Netherlands, and my opinion of Britons (especially the English, more so their upper middle class and above) is very negative by comparison with my opinion of the Dutch in general and my impression of British society by the time I left was basically “The country of Europe closest to Fascism, only it’s disguised with posh bollocks from posh people with a posh accent”.
However this shit the current government is doing there of arresting people demonstrating against the Genocide as “terrorist supporters” doesn’t have the support of most of the population. Further, 1.5% of the people of a country coming out in a demonstration for the benefit of completely different people and in no way whatsoever for their own personal benefit shows that at last that many people over there have incredibly strong principles.
It doesn’t prove that most people are quite that good people, but it still seems to me that most aren’t quite as bad as being deemed uncivilized.
As I see it, the point you’re making is really that pretty much the entirety of the non-elites there lack a spine, both as people and as a group - hence not doing much to overthrow the power structures of that country - which is not the same as not being civilized people, though as we can see both path lead to similar outcomes in situations like this one.
Frankly, I couldn’t agree more with that view! Countless experiences I’ve had over there speak of subservience towards the upper classes and even towards society in general (the level of concern with “what will other people think of me” there, especially amongst Middle Class women, is quite extreme when compared with, for example, the Dutch) and maybe explains why they’re so good at Theatre: a lot of people over there spend their lives behind a thick complex façade so it’s unsurprising when so many make a hobby and even a profession from it.
Further, they’re relentlessly indoctrinated with both Nationalism and Respect For Authority (in other words, for the elite dynasties) by the local Press, which is maybe why the Brits are actually the least trusting in the local Press of all of Europe.
However, lack of a spine - which in my opinion is mainly a learned trait from growing up in such a society - though not exactly positive in Psychological and Freedom terms, isn’t the same as being uncivilized.
1.5% of the people of a country coming out in a demonstration for the benefit of completely different people and in no way whatsoever for their own personal benefit shows that at last that many people over there have incredibly strong principles.
Yes there are some, but it’s a minority, you have to judge a country by the majority and their government. Because those are the ones representing the country.
There can be exceptions where the people are oppressed, with military force, but UK is NOT such a country.both as people and as a group
No individuals are individuals and have different traits, this is 100% as the group we call UK.
which is not the same as not being civilized people
I would argue that having something like the house of lords is an expression of being uncivilized as a country.
Again the people consist of individuals, but as a group of people we call UK they definitely have traits in their society that are immoral and to me immoral equals uncivilized.Now all countries can have elements that are immoral, the problem with UK is that it has elements that are deeply fundamental to their society, much like USA.
I like Trumps term. He called it a strike.
Two more and he’s out, right?
I fear he is playing bowling, not baseball.
RIP International law.
They never existed because we never had a real international police to enforce them. They kinda felt real because the US kinda acted like this police.
Team America: World Police was a documentary.
Laws are threats made by the dominant socioeconomic-ethnic group in a given nation. It’s just the promise of violence that’s enacted and the police are basically an occupying army. You know what I mean?
Wasn’t it RIP with Iraq? Or Afghanistan? Or Vietnam?
So the thing about Iraq is that:
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Bush enacted the NATO articles after 9-11 but couldn’t prove which country was responsible so while the troops were rallied there was no actual NATO response just voluntary support.
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Bush, Cheney, and the CIA managed to grub up a bunch of images of Aluminium Tubes that the CIA swore up and down were used in the production of nuclear weapons, and this case was presented to Congress to gain support for the war.
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The same arguments were presented to the UN prior to the invasion.
Comparing Trump’s weekend getaway trip to that is disingenuous to its core, congress and largely the American people had absolutely no part to play in his insanity, and normalizing it or pretending there won’t or shouldn’t be repercussions for that helps nobody except for Donald Trump.
This is a childish and wrong way of understanding politics. “Orange man bad”, although a true statement, doesn’t explain USA geopolitics, which are largely bipartisan.
You say congress played no part, yet most of congress (even most democrats) don’t condemned the actions themselves, only the lack of protocol followed. Half of EU politicians are celebrating too.
I myself don’t condemn the action itself, Maduro had it coming and so do all the other anti-democratic despots of the world. I place the greater good of all future people above my own comfort.
But Trump should be punished just as any other president should, this is not their power to do.
The entire purpose of economic sanctions on Venezuela is to prevent free elections, because free elections gave rise to the Bolivarian revolution. This is not me making it up, this is literally the US policy as said by themselves with economic sanctioning:
- The majority of Cubans support Castro (the lowest estimate I have seen is 50 percent).
2.There is no effective political opposition.
3.Fidel Castro and other members of the Cuban Government espouse or condone communist influence.
4.Communist influence is pervading the Government and the body politic at an amazingly fast rate.
5.Militant opposition to Castro from without Cuba would only serve his and the communist cause.
6.The only foreseeable means of alienating internal support is through disenchantment and disaffection based on economic dissatisfaction and hardship.
If the above are accepted or cannot be successfully countered, it follows that every possible means should be undertaken promptly to weaken the economic life of Cuba. If such a policy is adopted, it should be the result of a positive decision which would call forth a line of action which, while as adroit and inconspicuous as possible, makes the greatest inroads in denying money and supplies to Cuba, to decrease monetary and real wages, to bring about hunger, desperation and overthrow of government.
By arguing about elections without taking sanctions into account, you’re just being a CIA stooge
I can’t tell if you’re being facetious of if you actually think Venezuela is Cuba? After Cuba aligned with the USSR at the height of the cold war and became a single party dictatorship, economic suppression seems like a tame response. You realize they almost set off WWIII?
I feel like support for Castro would plummet harshly if any opposition were allowed on it’s soil, but it was not.
The document: Cubans are overwhelmingly in support of communism, so we need to starve them
The most “democratic” westerner: OF COURSE WE STARVED THEM, THEY DIDN’T HAVE TWO PARTIES
Just so you know: US + EU economic sanctions have murdered 38 million people in the past 50 years, and continue to murder half a million yearly. “Tame suppression”
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Hawaii - 1950
Still occupied to this day
Barbary Wars - 1801
*International Suggestions
Yes, exactly, and if the USA can do what they please why should other countries comply with it? It creates a dangerous precedent and an example for other authoritarian regimes. And I am afraid that Venezuela is just the beginning.
Venezuela is not the beginning. America has always been a terrorist state. You just have the memory of a goldfish.
Calvinball-based international order
Everybody with nukes does as the please. US, Russia, China, North Korea, Israel…
Everyone who abuses their power suffers economic repercussions at a minimum, militaristic repurcussions via the funding and arming of their opponents in some cases, but the precedent here being set is China asking “if the world won’t defend you, why should you defend the world?” It’s a dangerous warmongering idea that unfortunately might be taking root.
The US hasn’t really suffered any serious consequences, yet. Similar to China. Russia didn’t until Ukraine, before that they messed in Chechnya, Georgia, etc with impunity. I don’t see anyone coming to the aid of Tibet or the uyghurs either, China is pretty scot free.
Technically, Russia saw a lot of pushback over Crimea which directly predated the rest of Ukraine.
Very very minor. Some strongly worded letters and symbolic sanctions. They could have kept crimea and most of the donbas and in a decade things would have gone back to normal.
and Ukraine only because it borders Europe
Some would argue 'is in Europe "even.
This is being very common with everything related to US. Ecuador invaded Mexican embassy and now this.
Does that include the boat murders ?
Fuck America, let them suffer, make them burn, especially the current administration.
Do not absolve the past administrations, do not absolve the future administrations, canada, europe, russia or china. Fuck the global north.
All European leaders have done since the abduction of Maduro and massacre of 80 people in Venezuela “monitoring” the situation. Europe is complicit. So you’re not wrong. Not sure why people are down voting.
If I had to guess, it would probably be because what they said was the equivalent of “fuck every country, fuck everyone”.
If I said that, for example, I’d probably be downvoted too.
We can’t even get a handle on our current administration who the leader is a known pedophile, murderer, rapist, grifter, and all around POS.
Trump kidnapped a foreign leader. Let that sink in.
It’s not just the Republicans tho. Obama bombed 8 countries in a year in 2016.
who is America? certainly you don’t mean its people
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Yes. The 77.3 million who chose Trump, as well as those who were too lazy to bother voting.
Collectively they can get fucking rekt.
So, what about the 75 million other Americans who voted for Harris?
Now is maybe not the time to throw “not all men” around.
Now is the time to actively resist and prove to the rest of the world yourself an ally in a global fight against fascism taking command of the largest military on the planet.
Now is the time to actively resist and prove
I’m too busy enjoying the catharsis of watching them cry about suffering the consequences. It’s crab mentality for sure, but they deserve this suffering.
As long as they do nothing to unite and just hope someone else does something for them, I’m not sure what use you think they are to me?
Well see, they’re going to vote blue again this year and again in 3 years. Because that’s worked so fucking well the last 8 times
it did work well. Joe Biden was the last president and he was a damn good one.
doubt
How many times I heard that it’s ok to murder Palestinians because I’m 2006 they voted for the party that got rid of Israeli settlements.
meanwhile the American people are not responsible for the guy they voted a second time last year?
every conservative voter is directly complicit with those murders, and ideally they should face justice, and every liberal is also complicit because the Dems are useless and also do this bullshit.
Only reply I’ll accept is that the US is not a democracy, barely even a pretend one. it’s a theater for the rich to do as they please. but I’ll still blame the Americans for not providing enough pushback.
almost every other nation would have revolted. Americans are exceptionally meek bootlickers.
No, the fridges and washers. Some toasters, too.
Are you asking that in good faith? The Maga trash for certain, though. And people who don’t take direct action, or any action.
If we manage to escape the trump dictatorship, every soldier involved needs to be court-martialed and sentenced for following illegal orders.
Cute. Won’t happen.
Nope. But it should.
This made me laugh. This is the same shit we’ve been doing for 100 years. “Illegal orders” aren’t a thing when you use your imperial military to do imperialism. The last time we had a President that wasn’t a war criminal was never.
Yeah this is more like a return to the norm, just more blatant and overt. And even earlier than 100 years, before America was strong enough to reach out into the world and do this to other countries, it was manifest destiny against the indigenous. You won’t find a corner of this planet unmolested by American imperialism, and the hardest hit are still problems that persist to this day.
Whether it’s the Panama Canal, the Monroe doctrine, the Banana republics, or atrocities in Vietnam and Cambodia and Laos. Intervening in civil wars and conflicts that would eventually create Taiwan and South Korea and Israel as American vassal states built with the purpose of serving American interests. Fomenting a coup in Iran over oil which would usher in the Iranian revolution, or smashing Iraq which created a power vacuum for isis to form. Wherever and whenever America reaches out into the world, death and destruction will typically follow. And if it isn’t leaving a shattered and broken state for whoever is left to pick up the pieces, then it’s funding and arming one side of a war to create a satellite state to enrich itself which leaves a conflict ready to reignite at any moment.
Harrison!
Even Harrison?
FYI US soldiers involved in illegal orders in the USA are almost never court-martialed or even put on trial. The only one I can think of actually being convicted is the Mai Lai massacre way back in 1968. The US has become consistently more brazen in its flaunting of international law regarding war crimes and any policing of its armed forces through subsequent administrations since.
In fact its very rare for US troops or even military contractors brazenly ignoring orders and committing war crimes to even be put on trial, let alone be convicted. The most recent incident I can think of is the four Blackwater contractors during ‘Operation Iraqi Freedom’ that massacred 17 unarmed Iraqi civilians and injured 20 in Baghdad city. There was such overwhelming evidence in the case that they were convicted by a US court of murder (one member) and manslaughter (the other three) in 2014.
Even that was an unacceptable level of accountability for the Republicans, so Trump gave them all presidential pardons in his first term in 2020.
They don’t even prosecute foreign war criminals, much less their own. US Nuremberg trails had a <0.2% conviction rate for identified war criminals lol. Less than 1% of “major war criminals”.
Criminal cops are paid instead of convicted.
There is 0 hope for any justice at all for these people unless the entire US government gets overthrown or something just as drastic.
The USA has done this many times (captured or even murdered heads of state, and anyone else they wish to), there has never been a court martial and nobody has ever been punished.
If you know of any exceptions, please share.
And then we should get all the world leaders in a big room and tell them they’re being bad. Then they’ll all sing and hold hands and stop all wars. And then later my mommy can make us all dino nuggies and we can watch Trollhunters on Netflix.
Y’know… Of all the ridiculously stupid improbable absurdity that’s happened…
… I’m kinda down for that one over whatever the frick we’re living through at the moment lol.
And then later my mommy can make us all dino nuggies and we can watch Trollhunters on Netflix.
Your mom sounds cool. Call her and tell her she’s cool. ❤️
You could march them in fucking shackles to the Hague and they would just handwave them away. Nobody is coming to fucking save us, and the sooner people wake the fuck up and realize that, the sooner we can start organizing valuable and competent community defense networks.
This never happened in US history and I don’t think americans have the spine to do anything even remotely close to this.
Sadly, we won’t.
Americans are terrorists and it’s people are cowards for allowing this to go on
And what would you do in our position? Stop acting like the average American citizen has any control over this.
General strike.
I mean, you Americans love to compare yourselves with Rome, learn something from the Secessio Plebis.
Or better, take a hint from your own previous social movements.
General strikes don’t materialize out of nowhere and require significantly more organization and infrastructure than currently exists.
So then what you need to do is build …what… ? Take your thought to it’s logical conclusion.
Look, dear American people, there is no cavalry coming to save you. You have to do this. It’s your country. Build the infrastructure, build the organization.
Start small, build up: https://youtu.be/vvaquOcNEKI
I mean, at the VERY LEAST, you could do one of those cute marches during a week day… maybe start there
This is you right now!
The real problem here is that you painted your collective selves to a corner by apathy and inaction… now, pretty much any option left does require some sacrifice but God forbid you had to move a finger and crack a nail… better let other people keep dying so you can keep watching the game with a beer in hand
Liberal Americans are just waiting out a hypothetical course correction to a more polite and slower collapse of the empire. They are completely unwilling to consider that the US government and the country itself is the bad guy.
It’s about time we stopped saying things like ”Trump attacked Venezuela” – the US did. Americans happily killed those people. And the killers’ relatives support them. Americans on Lemmy support them, claiming there’s nothing the killers could have done: they were just following orders.
Ultimately, the reason why supposed opponents of the Trump regime are looking for you and others to provide them with a clear path for how to decisively defeat the entirety of the US government in one fell swoop, is that their red lines, at which they’re willing to fight, win or lose, have not been crossed yet. Everything so far has been tolerable to them.
This separates them from the Maga grassroots Americans, that notably managed to storm the Capitol.
The average American is a pile of uneducated garbage.
Im just an indigenous guy enjoying the downfall of your people
This is just such an incredibly stupid insulting thing to say.
Millions of Americans oppose this admin and are actively protesting and volunteering against it.
We can’t just walk to fucking DC and remove a democratically elected prez you idiots
We can’t just walk to fucking DC and remove a democratically elected prez you idiots
It’s Jan 6th. tomorrow, just saying.
Yeah, and how did that work out?
Worked out great for the traitors, they all got pardoned and got re-elected.
It seems to have worked well enough for them, since they’re the ones running the government now.
I also don’t think they’re going to leave peacefully ever. If you want them out, you might as well toss them out sooner than later.
It didn’t stop Biden’s inauguration, which was the stated goal.
You do realise there is another half of the country that opposes this right? Even if 55% of the country tries to throw trump out 45% will show up to stop him and that will be a very bloody conflict.
Better just to wait until mid terms and next election and vote him out.
Do you think they’ll accept a loss at the next election, or are they going to start a bloody conflict anyway?
Yes you can. “Millions of Americans” sounds like an army.
An army with (at best) small arms. Against the US military, we may as well have sticks and stones.
Your American army got defeated by villagers with sticks and stones in Vietnam.
Yeah it definitely didn’t have anything to do with all the hardware and intel from Russia
Always someone else’s fault with you yanks. Never taking responsibility for your own failings.
“My” failing for a dumb war that ended over a decade before I existed. K.
Changing your Facebook profile picture doesn’t count. If you feel insulted, look around and think.
If they can do it in other countries, why can’t you? Cowards
BTW democracy and law is dead in the USA, you are living in a delusion if you think otherwise.
So yes, you absolutely CAN and SHOULD remove a war criminal and a pedophile who is breaking all the national and international laws. WTF?
Yes. And the good Americans are constantly working towards that, anywhere from really complicated micro step means like funding grassroots progressives to things like Massie and Khanna collaborating on legislation to nation wide protests.
This is an extremely complex and disturbing situation that requires mass demonstrations and complex beuarocratic machinations and acting like Greg from Atlanta not rolling up to Washington on a tractor with a shotgun is what’s letting it happen is fucking reductive, emotional, immature, unconstructive, childish, in-fighting causing, and just fucking stupid. As stupid as they nking democracy is dead in the USA.
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Yeah you can’t cause you’re all talk, you’re idiots and cowards. The faster you guys become a third world shithole the better.
Your entire country is a disease.
Sincerely an indigenous person
go and fuck your hat. I’m a coward because I don’t want to stand up to the most powerful military in the world being damn near a senior citizen?
Bro, they on your side.
No one expects you to go Rambo. They just want the majority of people to find their morals and do something.
As unlikely as that is dont get so worked up because some anon was provoking you to do exactly what you just did. Maybe tomorrow you wont take down your local police department but instead look at a homeless person and think, “this isnt right.”
Really just outs the commenter as having no fucking clue what they are talking about.
We are doing what we can. Constant record breaking protests. Progressives are winning by historic margins. These stupid fucking pretentious insulting comments do less than nothing.
People really just cannot fucking comprehend the breadth and intensity of the psy op propaganda that the Republicans have enacted (really since Nixon) but intensely starting with Trump.
Unprecedented targetting, unprecedented amounts of propaganda, and a collaboration with multiple foreign adversaries to assist. Trumps campaign was literally sending voter data to Russia so they can specifically target Americans with propaganda.
On top of OAN, Fox News, podcasts, and talk radio, we literally had Russia and china making thousands of full on fake websites posing as legit news spreading insane anti left bullshit. Social media was completely flooded with bots spreading misinformation leading up to all of Trump’s elections
America is the victim of the biggest and most advanced brainwashing campaign in the history of mankind and we all seem to be ignoring that fact when it is the single most important aspect of modern American and global politics.
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Pure cope.
You try changing people’s opinions when you can’t even agree on what is and what isn’t reality. I really don’t think you guys have any idea how broken half of this country is. We do. Because we have to deal with these people on a daily basis. Some of them are our family.
I do contribute. Drive for a local charity a few hours a month. They need a truck, I got a truck.
I’m frustrated as fuck with the govt. right now. but, they voted it in and now we have to try to get through it. I hope it doesn’t end with bloodshed.
Thats it man, youre leagues above. Dont let the politics trigger you. Youre losing yourself to something you cant control.
Same goes for me.
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I am, the others arent. Wait till the midterms are stolen. We will reach peak irony levels there and some more might be willing till talk.
And what will happen when the corrupt America decides not to pay because they know it will cripple them?
The bonds will become worthless pieces of paper and the USA will continue as it were.
Guess what? No one wins anything and the EU loses a ton of money for absolutely nothing.
The EU leaders didn’t elect a pedophile convict to run your country. Get your shit together you cowards.
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Your neighbor’s nephew once wore blue jeans, so he’s basically a war criminal.
says to do something
doesn’t say what that something is
Sounds like a you problem
Then keep that shit to yourself
Woo woo woo woo lemmy police are here.
We expect you to do your best
Yeah why aren’t me and you single handedly overthrowing this democratically elected government! We must be stupid or something
I love seeing foreigners asking Americans online why they don’t just stop this.
Like, motherfucker millions of us voted against this.
This is the result of multiple nations and multiple massive data analytics corps collaborating to create the biggest propaganda machine ever seen on earth which brainwashed millions of Americans.
But yeah. Why the fuck isnt Dave, the liberal from Vermont just walking to Washington and stopping this!!! /s
This why you guys are considered the dumbest people on Earth
Excellent retort. Now go feel high and mighty.
You’ve really made a difference by insulting people who agree with you and are already using their means to fight against this admin
You are a true revolutionary.
Wish you could go back in time and tell all the Jews in Germany who didn’t vote for Hitler that they are stupid for not stopping him. That would be really constructive. You could really save us some trouble there.
You’re comparing the american people to the jews in 1940? The jews were a tiny minority and they had the state AND the public against them.
i’ve literally seen you ask this
It’s not, though. Europeans in the fediverse have consistently made this argument since the election.
No. But the American logic has always been “we must do something” -> “this is something” -> “therefore we must do it”. Take the dumbest idea and run with it, or use it as an excuse for inaction.
You are a coward. Along with the millions who stayed home on voting day, letting this global nightmare happen. 2nd amendment you yanks love to waive around in everyone’s face, was made for this. Yet … crickets.
how about try to ask yourself: would you have shot hitler, had you been there, in nazi-germany? when all oposing parties and minorities were consecutively arrested and jailed?
There were several assassination attempts against Hitler, some of those attempts by Germans.
i am a german, i know of this stuff. i was just responding to the guy, who said, theres nothing, as an US-american, he can do about. Sure he can. Americans shouldnt belittle us, as to what happened during the time of nazi germany, when they wont do stuff themselves, when presented with an somewhat similar situation.
This Canadian agrees.
There have been several assassination attempts against Trump as well as consistent protests that are breaking participation records
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This is the best evidence we have for time travel
okay, so the google ai (i forgot to turn it off) says pre ww2 germany was about 633,000 square kilometers to the hogshead (including austria and sudentenland because idk i was up late). united states takes up about 9,150,000 square kilometers to the hogshead. does that explain the difference in size a little bit?
so what, the country is bigger, so any assasination on trump is riskier? or resistence to the covernment? i dont understand your logic, what does size of a country matter when presented with an president, who does fascist things, right in the front of you face. And the american people do nothing about it, they then are all complicit in his actions, as were deemed the german people during the nuremberg trials.
y’all are trying to say just walk over to dc. you seem to not understand the scale of things. you had a country, we have a continent to walk across. fucking bad faith nazi.
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And what will happen when the corrupt America decides not to pay because they know it will cripple them?
The bonds will become worthless pieces of paper and the USA will continue as it were.
Guess what? No one wins anything and the EU loses a ton of money for absolutely nothing.
Get your shit together you cowards.
Fat apathetic ignorant Americans are the true cowards.
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It’s telling that you find that idea so outlandish.
People do sign up to fight aggressive shit hole countries like the US all the time, even when the odds don’t look good on paper. Just look at Ukraine. At this point most Europeans have probably given a fleeting thought to the possibility that they might soon have to fight Russia too.
For that matter, look at all poorly equipped militias that have fought off the US at massive disadvantages.
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lol like a man falling off a cliff, grasping at branches
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Us citizens are the perpetrators of these global crimes. Your government acts in all your names
Careful with that edge, GreenCrybaby23.
The victim is the world and the murder-rapist is the us. We do think its fucked up you all live in the same house but there comes a point when maybe “don’t blame me I voted for Kodos” does not work when you are all buying the clown makeup for John Wayne Gacy.
Of course, you are just “following orders”.
And since you didn’t vote for that pedo rapist, it’s not your problem to deal with, right?
I unblocked you for a response, something I don’t usually waste my time on but this is so funny I had to point it out.
you have at least two alt accounts and are actively accusing and discrediting someone for the same thing. I think @ObtuseDoorFrame@lemmy.zip should at least know who they’re arguing with.
as if that wasn’t enough, you actually upvote all of your own comments with your alt accounts.
🤣
it’s absurd, if you spent half that effort on being a normal human being nobody would be able to tell how pathetic you are.
anyway, good luck with whatever hate machine you’re building. if this is the best you can do you’re going to need it.
Don’t worry I’m never blocking you, I have you tagged and will forever keep downvoting. Special cunts like you deserve all the special attention.
Btw, if you had me blocked you wouldn’t have seen my reply. So you are not just a simple cunt either, you are a LYING cunt.
A pathetic, lying American cunt crybaby is what you are.
sounds like someone is mad they got caught 🤣
tag me however you want, won’t make your actions any less pathetic.
for the record, I wouldn’t have even seen it if you hadn’t downvote bombed all my comments, but you piqued my interest enough to investigate your account.
I found some pretty interesting stuff. did you know that it’s possible to see all the downvote bombing you’ve done? like seriously dude…do you not have a life? not only that, but it seems you actually wrote a script to go through and do it for you because these timestamps are almost simultaneous.
I’m impressed that you could know enough to script something out and still be ignorant enough to leave breadcrumbs behind. real amateur hour stuff.
that’s not the only interesting thing either. I can see your upvotes too. it’s pretty telling tbh.
sounds like someone is mad they got caught
Haha, based on your long rambling replies and constant edits I know which one of us is having a mental meltdown. It ain’t me brother.
You say you don’t care about votes, yet you spent an hour doing investigative work into my voting. 🤡
you actually wrote a script
No, just good old fashioned manual labour. It takes less than a second to click on multiple down arrows while scrolling through your history. Do you have those slow fat sausage fingers?
Btw I’m only using ONE alt account and I’m not hiding anything. You really think I would use the same name on both accounts? Well you probably do, since you’re an idiot.
I’m impressed
Thank you, it’s hard work with idiots like you. All tools must be employed.
But looking at your history, it seems you are very unpopular as it is anyway, so my couple of downvotes are just a drop in the sea of downvotes you are getting from everyone else. Looks like I didn’t need to waste my time after all.
Wow, thats a bit of a crash out.
Makes a post like this and calls other people pathetic is a pretty legendary crash out.
What a child.
