It would be in the oil industries interest to fund agent provocateurs to become lightning rods for both willing protestors and public anger.
It would be in the oil industries interest to fund agent provocateurs to become lightning rods for both willing protestors and public anger.
But we generally only see the characters they play.
5 years ago Will Smith may have been on that list.
And look at all of his clients now in jail.
Why so many actors?
This is the Environment Act 2021, drawn up while the tories were still in power.
It is not a win.
Are you saying the image above is fake?
Fueling a slowdown? Doesn’t sound right.
Notice the language here, he says “the reporting” was not disinformation, nothing about whether the laptop itself was part of any disinformation campaign.
What? If reporting the laptop contents is not misinformation then the laptop contents are not misinformation.
And why have you abandoned the central theme of your claim that the FBI pressured them about the laptop?
My claim that the FBI deliberately mislead Twitter and Facebook was detailed above with accompanying evidence. You’ve brought nothing new to contradict that claim.
I’m not even sure he said what you’re claiming he said
“well, zuckerberg said it must be true!”? Please tell me we’re not there.
Well, he wrote that in a public letter to the House Judiciary committee. Let’s see the FBI disagree or arrest him for misinformation.
some emails have been verified. But not all.
The damaging ones have. In particular the “10% for the big guy” email is genuine.
Again, you’ve yet to actually establish that [Facebook censoring (incorrectly identified) misinformation] is the case.
See Zuckerberg’s statement
it could still be part of a Russian disinformation campaign
Nothing raised in that letter is relevant. There was no hacking. E-mails have been independently verified. The story is independent of Giuliani.
There is absolutely no evidence of Russian involvement between the point that the laptop was submitted for repair in April 2019 and the FBI subpoenaing the laptop in December 2019.
The FBI suggesting to facebook and twitter that the laptop was Russian Propaganda is pure misinformation.
Of course the public can only respond to a story after it has been released.
We are discussing Facebook censoring (incorrectly identified) misinformation.
The response letter of ex spies had nothing do to with Facebook’s actions, which were actually based on misleading FBI warnings.
Again, at no point have you established as a fact that it was not Russian propaganda.
You want me to prove a negative? Ok. No russians were involved in fixing Hunter’s laptop.
contradicting your claim that the public misconception about it was due to FBI planting the seeds.
I made no such claim. In fact the opposite is true. The lack of public communication by the FBI about the origins of the laptop story is what is damaging.
I gave you a letter of a bunch of intelligence officially pointing out how it has the earmarks of a Russian disinformation campaign.
None of which were true, because it has been proven in court via serial numbers that the laptop is genuine. Claims of Russian propaganda are pure misinformation.
“the laptop is his” which we agree is not in dispute,
We agree this is true, so how then do the Russians fit into your conspiracy theory?
Again, read the fucking letter.
Again, the letter was sent 5 days after censorship began. It is not relevant.
Did you read the letter i posted? This is where the whole “Russian disinformation” public perception comes from,
Your letter is not relevant. We are discussing why Facebook immediately started censoring the Hunter Biden laptop story published on the 14th October 2020. This has absolutely nothing to do with a disinformation letter released 5 days later on the 19th.
questionable timeline
What are you questioning?
where the FBI plants some vague seeds
Referenced directly by Zuckerberg as the specific reason for censorship.
and the public is smart enough to make the connection.
No, the Facebook content team were duped into connecting the laptop story to Russian propaganda.
Maybe this is because it was Russian disinformation, which is why the FBI never corrected it.
OK. I’d love to hear you arguing this. At what point were the Russians involved in repairing Hunter Biden’s laptop?
it’s not their job to correct public opinion.
It’s not the FBI’s job to run PR interference for a politician’s son, but that’s exactly what they did. Court documents prove they had foreknowledge and proof that Hunter’s laptop was genuine.
Directly contradicting your point.
Directly supporting. Look at the timeline
Laptop repair owner asks FBI why they haven’t done anything.
Says if FBI isn’t doing anything he will shortly release the copy he has.
FBI warn everyone that “Russian Propaganda” is about to be released.
Hunter Laptop story drops.
Everyone assumes this is the “Russian Propaganda” so all news and discussion is censored
FBI does not reveal that there is no “Russian Propaganda” related to that story.
FBI does not reveal laptop is genuine
FBI does not admit they’ve sat on evidence for 9 months and done nothing.
most people when they whine about people “lying” about the laptop being Russian propaganda are referring to the warning letter by ex spies:
No. I’m accusing the FBI of media manipulation and misinformation.
But it is hilarious that you are trying to invent evidence using what professional misinformation creators didn’t say in a published letter which, we now know, was complete misinformation.
The main problem with misinformation is who gets to decide what is fact and what is fiction.
The letter did not come from the FBI … The letter doesn’t say the laptop is fake
What letter are you being blinkered by?
The letter said it has all the hallmarks of Russian propaganda, not that it was.
The FBI knew for certain the laptop was genuine, because they had the original (not just the disc image). Yet they led twitter and Facebook to believe it was Russian Propaganda and made no effort to correct the public perception.
This is certainly something that certainly has not been disproven by a long shot.
It’s funny how often people need to turn to blatant disinformation in order in a desperate attempt to both sides the issue of disinformation.
It’s funny how a campaign of blatant disinformation by the FBI has been completely ignored. A campaign so successful that Hunter’s laptop is still mislabelled as Russian propaganda by most Americans.
Hunter Biden laptop being Russian Propaganda.
Disinformation. Lies. Etc.
30% + underlying mineral rights and coastal access.
Not for me to decide the criteria.
There must be a line somewhere, and that line needs to be much more consistent, clearer and well defined than a field on a passport.
I’ve not talked about horses or dogs either.
The oil companies could fund individual agent provocateurs of JSO directly. Whoever decided to attack the general public is doing big oil a big favor.