Yes, to quote the article so you don’t have to read it:

The woman was sailing in a catamaran some 278 nautical miles (more than 500 kilometers) southwest of the island of Gran Canaria when the shark struck.

Russians are crazy, but are they really crazy enough to self destruct completely?
Because I’m pretty sure they must be aware that that is what they are talking about.

You sure about that?

Your numbers are June not July, there were dozens of articles about it like this one:
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/bmw-overtakes-tesla-european-ev-sales-first-time-report-says-2024-08-22/
And this one:
https://electrek.co/2024/08/22/bmw-tops-tesla-ev-sales-first-time-gap-narrows-eu/
Although it seems to include PHEV it still makes the same claim. So I’m just going with what seems to be the standard.

That’s not what I was saying.

Sorry, I read it again, and I misunderstood, the beginning of your text implies the opposite. So it’s a bit confusing the way you write it IMO.

by the time the Chinese government stopped subsidies, there wouldn’t be any competition left.

What? BMW EV surpassed Tesla sales in Europe for July. BMW, VW, AUDI, Skoda all have very attractive alternatives to Tesla, and Mercedes too, if you want higher quality and don’t mind it’s a bit more expensive.
So how do you figure there is no competition without China?
From Korea we Have Hyundai and KIA, and from USA there is Rivian and Ford.
Arguably the American competition is the weakest, but still it seems to me there is lots of competition, even without including Chinese cars.

And the Russian response is another terrorist attack on Kharkiv, hitting a supermarket and a sports center. With 41 civilian casualties, and zero legitimate military purpose.

Yes I mostly agree with that, but it’s also proprietary technologies, and those technologies are based on local scientists working on them.
I admit I didn’t read the whole report, but as I understand it, the report doesn’t claim China is leading in for instance “advanced aircraft engines” but it claims China is investing 5 times more than USA in research on it.

I mention this as an example in a previous post, that it doesn’t mean they are leading the field now, because for instance USA has worked on that for 80 years already, and China is probably still catching up.
But unless we up our own game, China will surpass the west.

I have read other reports stating that China spend about twice the percentage of GDP on research compared to USA, and most western countries spend less than USA. I’ve been arguing for more education and research for my own country every chance I get for more than a decade now, but everybody is too busy making money, and that’s going so well they think we don’t need it. (Denmark)

Maybe the report is alarmist, maybe I am alarmist, but I’m not sure I want China to take the role USA has had since WW2. Xi and China are becoming hostile and arrogant in international politics, if this is the way of China going forward, it does not bode well IMO.

That’s whataboutism, and it’s very easy to point to FOX news spewing lies if you want to.
Just saying FOX news is right wing is not a very good argument against Fox news either.

Do you in fact disagree with the main sentiment of the report? And if you do, then why?
I happen to agree with the report on the main issue, that China is surpassing us on science and technology research.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I can see that China has made major strides in just about every field. For instance China can make their own quality ball bearings, which Russia can’t.

Just as an example of a seemingly minor thing, that has had a major impact on Russia when the west embargoed them because of Ukraine.

It’s OK to warn the report may be biased, but downvoting because you disagree is bad practice.
Downvoting it because it has false info however, is perfectly allright IMO, but nobody has shown that.

Well to be fair, it turned out that we should probably have been more hawkish towards China sooner.
So it seems to me you are arguing against what you say you are arguing for.

Nothing in what you describe shows anything wrong with the report or the article.
There is little doubt that China is spending way more on research than most countries, and being a close #2 in the world on economy, that makes it very plausible that China is in fact #1 in research today, and if we do nothing, China is destined to surpass us.

Silencing that warning is doing work for China.

Whether we want it or not, China is already advanced in most fields, and are now way way more dangerous than Russia, literally 10 times more powerful.
Russia without the nukes are nothing near super powers like USA and China.

is funded by the defence department and foreign companies,

OK, I’d suspect they’d want accurate data, so what is your argument that the report is bad?
Your claim is akin to: We can’t trust the report, because they are either left or right wing…

That’s not a good argument.

Why is this downvoted? the article is based on a REAL report by ASPI:
https://www.aspi.org.au/

The report:
https://www.aspi.org.au/report/aspis-two-decade-critical-technology-tracker

If you like graphs here’s a good one:
https://ad-aspi.s3.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/2024-08/ASPI’s two-decade Critical Technology Tracker_Figure1.png?VersionId=I5XtNvKHQGJPYNWJieBDAhC_ct8mM57r

But notice they do not claim China is necessarily leading the fields, only that they are doing more research.
For instance an area like advanced aircraft engines, where China is doing what looks like 5 times more research than USA, USA has worked on that for 80 years, and China is probably still catching up.

But have no doubt, China is a major force in research and technology today.

No you are downvoted for suggesting that executing people on sight, just for crossing a border, is a nuanced issue.
The normal thing to do is to arrest people.

In the 80’s people in Poland were hostages of a totalitarian system, and you may have suffered a kind of Stockholm Syndrome.

Zuckerberg is dangerously stupid.

I must admit I’ve not been impressed by Stelantis lately either. But they have a pretty big footprint in the lower end of the market here in Europe. If they can up their EV cars battery and keep prices down, I have no doubt they will be very popular.

Regarding the timing belt, the puretech engine started in the Peugeot 208 I according to wikipedia, the Peugeot 208 is an extremely popular car here, and anecdotally I never heard about the timing belt problem.

Despite that I know Stelantis is generally not the best quality, but they look good, and are cheap, and you get a lot of features/car for the money with the cheaper European sub brands I mentioned.
But Hyundai/KIA is bigger than Stelantis on EV, but their pricing here in EU is a bit expensive now compared to the competition.

Oh boy are they doing it too? I fear that may be a thing that will spread.

Unfortunately this is only a half truth, as it’s only if you include plug in hybrids, which Tesla obviously doesn’t sell. On the total for July Tesla is only #22 in Europe, when including all types of cars. But they remain #1 on pure EV.

But the BMW i4 is a VERY nice car, and the competition is getting closer to Tesla too.
VW is pretty high too, and also has the Skoda Enyaq that is also nice, and the AUDI Q4. So I’m pretty sure VW combined will surpass Tesla on pure EV within 6 months. Volvo is also doing well, and AFAIK polestar is part of Volvo too.

All in all, it’s very obvious that Tesla has much tougher competition now than they used to, and it seems to me that will increase further in the future.
Stelantis has some way to go, but I’m sure they’ll figure it out soon. Seems to me one of their problems is their batteries are still too small.
But when they figure it out, they will arrive in force, with Fiat, Opel, Citroen, Peugeot, which are all popular cars here in Europe. As it is now, they are all built around the same framework, and that’s not quite good enough IMO.

I wouldn’t be surprised if next year around this time, Tesla has dropped to #4 in Europe on true EV.

Yes the countries that profit the most from this war are India and China.
I don’t think India is in any hurry to help end this war.

If there’s a death sentence to 2/3rd of the planet, it’s very doubtful it will stop there to leave the remaining 1/3rd livable for long.
The 2/3rd may die sooner, but if it does, the rest will follow. Because there will be runaway global warming.
If we can stop or even reverse it, there is no need for the 2/3rds to die either.

Climate scientist is 1/3rd wrong.

The Chinese economy has been astonishingly successful. What has it been? 4 decades of constant growth?
I must admit I was beginning to think China had found some magical golden model, and their economy had become unstoppable.
I wonder if the way they calculate unemployment rate is comparable to most western countries? If so 17.1% is surprisingly high IMO.

The closely watched metric peaked at 21.3% in June of 2023, before authorities suspended publication of the figures and later changed their methodology to exclude students.

I think most countries do this, as a students main job is considered to be studying.