

Yes, Putin will use any misinformation and manipulation he can, including making a terrorist attack and blame it on others to promote his agenda. That is how he came to power!


No I’m not French, I’m from Denmark.
Ditto for the US.
FWIW their system is so much worse than the French one
Yes in USA it’s worse, because the president of USA has even more extensive powers, and congress isn’t entirely democratic either.
On this we are 100% in agreement.


I have no doubt they are no good, and undermine the societies they make their money on, but there are degrees of evil and there are degrees of insanity.
And by comparison American billionaires are the worst, and decidedly undermine democracy heavily using their money for greater influence, probably mostly because they are allowed, not because Europeans are better people. But the system in USA celebrating money and sociopathy make Americans worse.


That’s exactly how it works.


Unfortunately despite there are a lot of good Americans, there are more that either don’t give a shit or even support the current regime.


No it was nothing of the kind. He claimed Ukrainians were basically Russian, that is not about Russian minorities.


China’s leader Xi Jinping declared people on both sides of the Taiwan Strait are Chinese and want peace.
Isn’t that pretty much what Putin said about Ukraine before invading?


Even in France there’s a huge difference between the extreme right there and in USA. Le Penn is of course a traitor that support Russia, but she is not for instance advocating against healthcare for all. She is also not trying to undermine ordinary workers. But she hates foreigners and think Russia should be allowed to take Ukraine. But she is also not a war monger like Trump, and as far as we know she is not a pedophile.
Yes she is bad, and I have no idea why she is popular in France? But she is not nearly as dangerous to our democracy even just in France, as Trump is in USA. Also they do not have 40-50% support, she only got 23% of the vote, only because France has the stupid system that ends op pitting 2 candidates did she get 41% of the vote, when there was only one other candidate to compete against.
So you are wildly exaggerating the popularity of the far right in France and in Europe. Only the undemocratic presidential system in France makes her and “Rassemblement National” a danger of getting actual power.


if the US got the boot the Institution would than collapse
Yes which is why in reality NATO has already collapsed, it’s just not been dissolved yet.
But we can’t trust USA to lead NATO anymore. Are you aware that if a NATO operation were to happen in the middle east, USA would have control of the British nukes?
Obviously we can’t allow that.
as doing so means the US has more assets to bomb Iran and such.
That is pure fantasy, USA has not redirected anything from the arctic or Greenland to be used against Iran.


I think AfD is a symptom from the old East Germany, and I think they are supported maybe even created by Russian intelligence, AfD has shown strong support for Russia, and even gathered intelligence for Russia, and worked as Russian agents. AfD is also very anti immigrant. Which is not an interest of billionaires, that generally prefer access to lots of cheap labor.
I really don’t see how the German far right is explained by German billionaires supporting them.
So yes WTF indeed are you on about?


Nope not anymore, several NATO allies supported Greenland with troops to protect against a US invasion.
This of course pissed off Trump.
EU of which many member countries are also NATO members, threatened USA with using the Bazooka, and anti coercion instrument that was originally made to defend against coercion attempts from China.
This Bazooka if used, could dramatically undermine US economy.
This warning of course also pissed off Trump.
I think it’s pretty safe to say that Europe and very much Canada too, are tired of pleasing Trump.
But for some reason Rutte hasn’t got the memo, or more likely he didn’t understand it.
And now Trump is pissed off because NATO allies won’t let USA use their airbases for the illegal unprovoked war with threats of genocide that Trump entered without a plan, and without notifying NATO allies.


Mark Rutte is an idiot, and a traitor to the values of NATO just like USA.
USA failed all tests when they threatened to invade Greenland, and Trump fucking even brought it up again during their meeting!!
And Rutte has the audacity to make this idiotic statement?
USA also threatened genocide against Iran, and Rutte thinks we should help him? Jesus Christ what a moron.
NATO is a defensive alliance, not an alliance to support unprovoked illegal wars.


Are they undermining healthcare for all? Are they destroying democracy? Are they leading massive campaigns that claim climate change is a hoax? And suppressing scientists that work with it, and the organizations they work in?
I have never seen anything in Europe that is nearly as bad as for instance the Koch brothers. And the Koch brothers are far from alone. I think we got that established with the Epstein case, that has shown that the rich in USA cooperate towards a common goal, to take ever more power.


Yes my wife has had 2 cars that had a fire. But they could be fixed, mostly new cables.
Problem with an EV catching fire is that it is hotter more intense and cannot be put out with a fire extinguisher. Even real firefighters can’t generally put it out. Pouring water on it makes it worse.


The far right is doing pretty well in Europe
What a complete bullshit statement.
Yes having 5-10% of the European vote is doing well, because it used to be less, but compared to USA where Trump got the majority vote!! And Trump is more extreme than even the AfD.
In USA the extreme right is actually in power, extreme as in literally fascist destroying democracy and talking about genocide far right. Europe is nowhere near where USA and Russia are. But of course we are paying attention.


Well compared to many of the American billionaires, those Nazis look like saints.


Not just trying, it’s built into our laws, at least for the countries that are in EU.


Oh please, talk about ridiculous straw man argument. European countries have abandoned taking colonies since WW2, and transitioned completely to laws that respect international law and human rights. Which means respecting national sovereignty.
This is of course limited to the democratic part of Europe, so unfortunately Russia and Belarus do not stand by those values.
If there is a war that NATO is engaged in yes. But that is never gonna happen under Trump. Hence NATO is dead.