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Cake day: June 18th, 2023

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  • Weird since no major carcinogens are present, why do you think this image with no source and no reference to the actual findings is worth more than the plethora of studies that showed no carcinogens both before e-cigs was a thing, and in the early days of e-cig.?
    What exactly are those early signs? Being alive maybe? This is not a link to an actual research paper, this is just bullshit, come back when you have a link to the actual study.
    I’ve read dozens of actual studies, and I have (mostly) learned how to read them, and acknowledge when there are things that are beyond the scope of my knowledge because I don’t have a 5-7 year education on the issue. And then I search for info on those issues.
    Really Ḯve spend hundreds of hours investigating this thoroughly, and I am an educated guy, the snippet you show is only evidence to me of low info reaction.
    The part about inflammation is especially weird since PG, a common basis of e-juice is PROVEN to be anti inflammatory. DNA damage begin to happen from the day we are born, so without qualification that statement while obviously true, is equally obviously worthless.
    I wonder if you have any actual knowledge on the subject whatsoever, because you act like one of the unknowing sheep this may very well be supposed to target.


  • There is no source to the study, the link doesn’t work.
    Also even if I read the study, it is not a sure thing that their mistake is obvious, and I’ve seen dozens of studies that were done correctly that show there are no known carcinogens in the vapor of e-cigs.
    Or rather the ones that are detected are way less than 1% of a cigarette, which means vaping similar to smoking 20 cigarettes per day, will expose you to the equivalent of 0.2 cigarette. The biggest number being the formaldehyde we exhale naturally.

    So please just piss off with you knee jerk ignorance.
    I’ve studied the issue plenty, I don’t need to read yet another flawed study, I’ve seen plenty of those already.



  • Yes, a study, many years ago,

    If you think that was the only fake study you are wrong. There was also a study where they measured the formaldehyde using a test person, in a closed room.
    Lo and behold they found formaldehyde, and the press spread the news like rabid dogs.
    The problem was that we exhale formaldehyde naturally, and the level of formaldehyde measured was consistent with a person NOT vaping.

    But did this study do that?

    Most probably, because as I state there have been numerous studies that show no formaldehyde. These fake studies are made to push an agenda.

    Ive stopped vaping as of last year

    Good for you, I also stopped about 5 years ago, something I was unable to without the e-cig.

    it was obvious to me the flavour compounds were a complete unknown.

    Not complete, they are used in professional kitchens and industries, where people have been exposed for many decades. The chemical nature is also known and is deemed safe.
    You can also vape without flavor, which I did for about a year before quitting, the taste is actually quite nice IMO even without flavor.
    But I must admit I can still miss the taste of a good RY4 despite I’m 100% off the nicotine.








  • Russia is winning. More territory every week.

    No they are not, last month they lost more territory than they won, and Ukraine has completely thwarted the Russian spring offensive.

    with EU and US occupying bases inside it

    Neither EU or USA have any bases in Ukraine. Actually EU now has military personnel in Ukraine to be educated by the Ukrainians in drone strategies. Even if we had bases in Ukraine it would not be an occupation.

    Putin accepts patiently, has predetermined plot

    Like winning in three weeks?
    Very convincing mr mc clown face. 🤡 🤡 🤡

    The rest doesn’t make any sense, even with my abilities understanding 5 languages that enable me to understand most foreigners trying to speak English, IDK if you are Russian and very bad at English?

    But very clearly you are seriously misinformed. And it’s laughable how you just carry on with new false points after your previous points are shown to be false.


  • Still in practical use. it is common and always was. So claiming we have no knowledge of it is false. The only case I know of that has shown clear problems was the popcorn lung incident, where the factory had no ventilation, and the workplace was saturated with insane amounts of the butter flavor they made. Despite the atrocious conditions that caused the problem, the flavor was quickly taken out of products even before regulation could kick in. But AFAIK in normal use the flavor is as completely harmless as we can determine.

    https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/does-vaping-cause-popcorn-lung

    Yes obviously there is a risk with everything, but the risk is tiny to the amount it is considered negligible.
    Extreme use however will always have higher risk. EU has done things to try to prevent extreme vaping, but IDK if it’s working.
    Here (Denmark) the flavors are banned almost completely, only tobacco flavor and menthol are allowed.
    Kind of funny with the menthol, because if there is danger, the menthol expand the capillaries of the lungs, and allow the vapor to go further inside the lungs.
    Which is why you should NEVER smoke menthol cigarettes.

    Even water is poisonous, if you drink 4 liters of water quickly, you would very likely die. It completely ruins the salt levels of the body, so your kidneys stop working, and you brain will swell so you die.

    Nothing is COMPLETELY harmless, and especially nothing can be proven to be completely harmless. because the next test subject can be the one who is allergic, even if you have tested millions. The biggest test is commercialization where way more people use it than is ever tested in research. Completely harmless is an unrealistic requirement.