The Israeli military ordered an investigation into what went wrong, as strikes on two towns close to a nuclear site underlined Iran's continued ability to hit back.
Israelis have been actively slaughtering innocent women and children in Palestine for years now with the public cheering on, they have started an unprovoked war with Iran by bombing a school killing 150 little girls. This is just a tiny sample of Israel’s recent crimes. Is it any wonder the world has little sympathy for them? About the same amount that we had for the Nazis after all of their war crimes. Get fucked Israel, go eat several bags of dicks.
I’d rather Iran be killing soldiers than innocent too, but I understand why people can’t get but feel this way at this point. There’s been literally zero justice against Israel, and it’s so extreme what they’ve gotten away with, that I fully understand the schnaudenfreude many will be feeling at seeing Israel seeing any form of repercussions at this point.
That a overwhelming majority of the population isn’t strongly against their government doesn’t help either.
So while you do have a point, it would kind of be like trying to shame lgbtq+ people for being happy an apartment in Berlin got bombed during WW2… Especially considering we are essentially in WW3, in great part started by Israel, who is also currently trying another genocide run in Lebanon now.
The USA’s first target in Iran was a school for girls.
The USA’s first target was to kill civilians.
If you’re cheering the the USA in any of this, you’re cheering for death. No one is defending what the Iranian government has done to their civilians. But it’s not the USA’s job to be the world police, bomb little girls trying to get an education, tank the global oil economy, and send their own citizens to die in an illegal war.
Maybe take a step back. I’m queer, married to a trans person. Palestine doesn’t support me or my right to live. I don’t care I would prefer to take the higher ground in thinking Palestinians deserve a right to live.
Iran was uprising over their own government. Now they don’t have power, food is limited, and their govenment is still killing them while the USA bombs their schools.
Just to put the scale of this into context, the strike on the girl’s school wasn’t the first thing they did, those three strikes were among the first 700 strikes carried out on day one (1200 in the first 36 hours).
Try asking the guy to criticise Israel for all the civilians they’ve killed and you may find that it’s actually not that easy, which is strange, right?
Because they’re Israeli? And a large majority of Isrealis support whats being done to Iran? If you’re a Jew who still chooses to live there then its your own fucking fault if you get killed. They have literally EVERY opportunity in the world to leave their colonial paradise.
You could say the same about the United States could you not? News flash: relocation when your broke in a shit, war ravaged economy is difficult to put it mildly.
USians on Reddit kept blabbering for four years how “all decent Russians left Russia, only supporters of Putin and the war are still there”. So it must be pretty easy, just need to get on the plane and fly away.
“Don’t blame me I voted for kodos.” You can stick your head in the sand if you like but it does not change the facts. Did any civilian getting bombed have a different situation? Why are you so special that you think your nation gets to bomb but not be bombed back?
Punishing a whole country for the actions of a few elites is a bit steep. If you think the average American wants half of what’s going on, you’ve fallen victim to propaganda. Do better. By your logic we should have commit genocide after WW2 to make sure the Nazis were even stevens with the Jews. That eye for an eye thinking will make the whole world blind.
Look, if a nation sends aid to another in a time of need then it should get help when it is in need. If a nation sends bombs it is only fair that it gets bombed. The usa is not some magical outsider immune to the consequences of their own actions.
And to bring up the Jews with what is currently going on is kinda finny. israel exists due partly to the genocide in WWII and apparently you think that Germany was not bombed the everliving fuck out of. Do you know of the Dresden bombings, it was also a genocide.
Punishing a whole nation for what their leaders have that nation do is very much the standard, if that nation does not want that then there is always resistance or revolution.
It’s also literally the only place in the world were Jews are relatively safe when it comes to general antisemitism from within the society. I get why they don’t leave. Besides that there are still protests against the government and against the war. People don’t want to give up and fight for a better future of Israel and Palestine.
I wish it happened another way (say, by the missile hitting its intended target), but in general it’s a good thing for Israelis to know they’re not invincible.
So you’re making assumptions based on your flawed and biased experience instead of factual data. Got it. I expected that given the quality of comment you provided above.
No, I simply recognise what I perceive may not be the same as reality and would double check my assumptions before posting any comment so I do less mistakes. I especially do not proudly proclaim that my comments lack any research whatsoever and that I’m completely fine with it like you are doing.
Checking if the person I’m accusing of being a leftist is a leftist first before posting the comment is not pretending to do research, it’s simply common sense.
You somehow think that making comments involves either peer-reviewed science or zero research at all and nothing in between. You also seem to be proud of not double-checking your assumptions at all. From these two observations, I can tell that you have a few issues up there that needs to be addressed.
I suppose I don’t really know why I engage with willfully ignorant dumbasses. It’s just that it feels wrong to leave the really fucking stupidly wrong comments with no reply. I know it won’t break through the ignorance. They’re living in their own little alternate reality, ignoring everything that doesn’t fit into their little constructed worldview, attacking everyone who is actually trying to make the world a better place.
But I guess it makes me feel better to speak up against the stupidity, even though it’s useless. Because if we don’t, these idiots will dominate the conversation and it will end up with more people going down that path.
It’s like the anecdote of the bar where the guy is at the bar having a drink. Another guy walks in, goes up to the bar and orders a drink. Bartender tells him to get out. New guy says, “Hey, I just want to have a drink and relax, man.” Bartender has none of it, tells him to get out and never come back. New guy leaves, and our original guy asks the bartender about it, to which the bartender replies: “That guy had a swastika tattoo. He was a nazi. And the thing is, he probably would have been polite and had a drink and maybe even made friendly conversation. But the thing about nazis: Once he realized he was allowed here, he’d start bringing his other nazi friends. Once you let one of them in and stay, you become a nazi bar.”
It’s a little glurgy, and maybe it never happened or maybe it’s happened a hundred times… that’s the thing about anecdotes like that.
But the underlying principle is sound.
If we let these fucking fascists take over the conversation, soon this place will be no better than /r/the_donald or /r/conservative or Truth Social or any of the other places fascists congregate.
So I guess that’s why I speak up.
But I don’t really try to change their stupid opinions, because there’s no fucking point. All I really would like to see is for them to shut the fuck up and stop pissing all over the conversation.
They made themselves the right people with the genocide they support. 5 years ago it was a different story. But 100,000+ Palestinians later, I have no sympathy for Israelis. FAFO
Maybe not - though the anti-Israel stance of most / many leftist certainly seems to be getting pretty rabid. And the person I called a ‘leftist’ didn’t dispute that claim.
We love to supremacists who setup camping chairs and bring snacks to watch children be bombed by their supremacists military finally face consequences of the terror they’ve inflicted on so many nations and taste a tiny bit of their own medicine, and they happen to identify as Jews.
Israelis meanwhile unapologetically love watching “Arabs” die at their hands.
But it sure is a little fucking difficult to have a lot of sympathy for fewer than two hundred INJURED Jews when Israel has murdered way more than 20,000 Palestinians - countless instances of running them over alive with bulldozers or tanks, crushing them alive in the treads, or just shooting random kids.
Little fucking difficult to feel too much sympathy there.
It’s a common Israeli talking point to associate any critique of their government with antisemitism.
It’s very transparent.
It’s the same people acting as mouthpieces that are silent when Israel actually targets hospitals or their soldiers torture babies and rape prisoners. Hard to pretend they aren’t the ones indoctrinated to hate a specific set of people.
Your hate towards anyone that isnt subservient to Israel has turned a massively shitty theocratic regime into some kind of weird underdog worth cheering for.
It’s like if Italy and Germany were fighting in WW2 and you dont understand why people are cheering on Italy, but even more, you actually think the Nazis are the good guys. Everyone else is simply going “they both suck but one is clearly worse than the other, because of the genocide and all”.
Put all the quotes that you like but you are either against Zionism or pro genocide.
Israel’s & Israeli sympathizer’s labeling of antisemitism for all criticisms is making that phrase meaningless. They’re putting jewish people at risk by hiding behind it.
Just own it, people are hating on that country because they commit war crimes, warmonger nonstop, and use mossad to run pedo rings to influence / control their “allies” governments—then pretend to be the victim.
Point me towards a comment where you have been critical of Israel bombing hospitals in Lebanon, bombing refugee camps in Palestine or causing over 1000 civilian deaths in Iran these past few weeks.
I know it’s a bad thing to kill civilians. That’s why I’m against the country that goes out of its way to do it. Israel revels in civilian deaths.
This comment is why I can’t take you at your word when you say you’re against all civilian deaths.
Not only do you not have any proof to give, which might be explainable by you not getting the chance to make such a comment just yet. But instead of simply explaining why and using this chance to call out Israel for their atrocities against civilians, you decided to focus on one part of the comment so you can avoid criticising Israel while claiming the moral high ground.
This is a very typical Zionist tactic which is convincing me more and more that you are not arguing in good faith. I can still be wrong, but you’re not making it easy for me to trust you.
In this case, all the victims are disproportionately Zionists, so what you’re claiming is the less likely thing to be happening here. It’s also very transparent when Zionists try to hide behind the Jew identity so they can avoid consequences for their actions, you know?
There are polls showing the majority of Israelis consider themselves Zionists. For example.
I want to say you’re just uninformed, but I’m way too used to the way Zionists argue to recognise when they are just acting like they don’t know so they can make false arguments that aren’t based on any facts.
And I am sure you would classify “The Jerusalem Post” as a trustworthy source as well, when it doesn’t conform with your views, yes?
Also they asked some 500 people out of almost 10 million Israelis.
I repeat myself: there is no way to know weather the killed civilians were zionists. And even if they were, murdering civilians is bad, regardless of who they are or who does the killing.
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Israelis have been actively slaughtering innocent women and children in Palestine for years now with the public cheering on, they have started an unprovoked war with Iran by bombing a school killing 150 little girls. This is just a tiny sample of Israel’s recent crimes. Is it any wonder the world has little sympathy for them? About the same amount that we had for the Nazis after all of their war crimes. Get fucked Israel, go eat several bags of dicks.
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Won’t SOMEBODY think of the genociders???
Or alternatively “You are too mean to the fascists.”
I’d rather Iran be killing soldiers than innocent too, but I understand why people can’t get but feel this way at this point. There’s been literally zero justice against Israel, and it’s so extreme what they’ve gotten away with, that I fully understand the schnaudenfreude many will be feeling at seeing Israel seeing any form of repercussions at this point.
That a overwhelming majority of the population isn’t strongly against their government doesn’t help either.
So while you do have a point, it would kind of be like trying to shame lgbtq+ people for being happy an apartment in Berlin got bombed during WW2… Especially considering we are essentially in WW3, in great part started by Israel, who is also currently trying another genocide run in Lebanon now.
Only good nazi is a dead nazi. A decade from now I’ll be making a toast to the heroes who finally shot back at isreal.
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The USA’s first target in Iran was a school for girls.
The USA’s first target was to kill civilians.
If you’re cheering the the USA in any of this, you’re cheering for death. No one is defending what the Iranian government has done to their civilians. But it’s not the USA’s job to be the world police, bomb little girls trying to get an education, tank the global oil economy, and send their own citizens to die in an illegal war.
Maybe take a step back. I’m queer, married to a trans person. Palestine doesn’t support me or my right to live. I don’t care I would prefer to take the higher ground in thinking Palestinians deserve a right to live.
Iran was uprising over their own government. Now they don’t have power, food is limited, and their govenment is still killing them while the USA bombs their schools.
Fucking great alternative.
Just to put the scale of this into context, the strike on the girl’s school wasn’t the first thing they did, those three strikes were among the first 700 strikes carried out on day one (1200 in the first 36 hours).
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thanks for calling me a fuckwit really made my day ❤️
Try asking the guy to criticise Israel for all the civilians they’ve killed and you may find that it’s actually not that easy, which is strange, right?
Same. But people want to feel righteous I guess and celebrating civilian victims is an outlet for that.
Why? Because fuck them, thats why.
Full support for you. Cheering for killed civilians should not be tolerated.
Because they’re Israeli? And a large majority of Isrealis support whats being done to Iran? If you’re a Jew who still chooses to live there then its your own fucking fault if you get killed. They have literally EVERY opportunity in the world to leave their colonial paradise.
You could say the same about the United States could you not? News flash: relocation when your broke in a shit, war ravaged economy is difficult to put it mildly.
USians on Reddit kept blabbering for four years how “all decent Russians left Russia, only supporters of Putin and the war are still there”. So it must be pretty easy, just need to get on the plane and fly away.
Yes, one can hope that one day americans get exactly the sort of treatment they have done on the world.
Small problem, I have done nothing to anybody, why should I be bombed? Are you actually this ignorant? I thought society had moved past this trash
if you pay taxes you help build bombs.
“Don’t blame me I voted for kodos.” You can stick your head in the sand if you like but it does not change the facts. Did any civilian getting bombed have a different situation? Why are you so special that you think your nation gets to bomb but not be bombed back?
Punishing a whole country for the actions of a few elites is a bit steep. If you think the average American wants half of what’s going on, you’ve fallen victim to propaganda. Do better. By your logic we should have commit genocide after WW2 to make sure the Nazis were even stevens with the Jews. That eye for an eye thinking will make the whole world blind.
Look, if a nation sends aid to another in a time of need then it should get help when it is in need. If a nation sends bombs it is only fair that it gets bombed. The usa is not some magical outsider immune to the consequences of their own actions.
And to bring up the Jews with what is currently going on is kinda finny. israel exists due partly to the genocide in WWII and apparently you think that Germany was not bombed the everliving fuck out of. Do you know of the Dresden bombings, it was also a genocide.
Punishing a whole nation for what their leaders have that nation do is very much the standard, if that nation does not want that then there is always resistance or revolution.
If half of the Americans actually voted against this crap it wouldn’t happen. They didn’t and so they’re at fault.
It’s also literally the only place in the world were Jews are relatively safe when it comes to general antisemitism from within the society. I get why they don’t leave. Besides that there are still protests against the government and against the war. People don’t want to give up and fight for a better future of Israel and Palestine.
I wish it happened another way (say, by the missile hitting its intended target), but in general it’s a good thing for Israelis to know they’re not invincible.
Because they want this, they just don’t want it aimed at them.
You find it weird people are cheering for an evil country getting bombed?
It’s amazing how quickly leftists support was crimes so long as the victims are “the right people”.
Just like republicans. Why do you find that weird?
I’m also amazed at how quickly you blame leftists based on one person’s comment that gave no indication that they are a leftist.
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lol fuck right off with this shit.
“Trust me bro” is neither an acceptable source nor an acceptable form of birth control…though it appears to be working for the women nearest you.
OMG dude. 🤣
So you’re making assumptions based on your flawed and biased experience instead of factual data. Got it. I expected that given the quality of comment you provided above.
😂
I assume everything you say is only the highest of quality peer-reviewed science too.
No, I simply recognise what I perceive may not be the same as reality and would double check my assumptions before posting any comment so I do less mistakes. I especially do not proudly proclaim that my comments lack any research whatsoever and that I’m completely fine with it like you are doing.
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Checking if the person I’m accusing of being a leftist is a leftist first before posting the comment is not pretending to do research, it’s simply common sense.
You somehow think that making comments involves either peer-reviewed science or zero research at all and nothing in between. You also seem to be proud of not double-checking your assumptions at all. From these two observations, I can tell that you have a few issues up there that needs to be addressed.
Are the leftists in the room with you right now?
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I suppose I don’t really know why I engage with willfully ignorant dumbasses. It’s just that it feels wrong to leave the really fucking stupidly wrong comments with no reply. I know it won’t break through the ignorance. They’re living in their own little alternate reality, ignoring everything that doesn’t fit into their little constructed worldview, attacking everyone who is actually trying to make the world a better place.
But I guess it makes me feel better to speak up against the stupidity, even though it’s useless. Because if we don’t, these idiots will dominate the conversation and it will end up with more people going down that path.
It’s like the anecdote of the bar where the guy is at the bar having a drink. Another guy walks in, goes up to the bar and orders a drink. Bartender tells him to get out. New guy says, “Hey, I just want to have a drink and relax, man.” Bartender has none of it, tells him to get out and never come back. New guy leaves, and our original guy asks the bartender about it, to which the bartender replies: “That guy had a swastika tattoo. He was a nazi. And the thing is, he probably would have been polite and had a drink and maybe even made friendly conversation. But the thing about nazis: Once he realized he was allowed here, he’d start bringing his other nazi friends. Once you let one of them in and stay, you become a nazi bar.”
It’s a little glurgy, and maybe it never happened or maybe it’s happened a hundred times… that’s the thing about anecdotes like that.
But the underlying principle is sound.
If we let these fucking fascists take over the conversation, soon this place will be no better than /r/the_donald or /r/conservative or Truth Social or any of the other places fascists congregate.
So I guess that’s why I speak up.
But I don’t really try to change their stupid opinions, because there’s no fucking point. All I really would like to see is for them to shut the fuck up and stop pissing all over the conversation.
They made themselves the right people with the genocide they support. 5 years ago it was a different story. But 100,000+ Palestinians later, I have no sympathy for Israelis. FAFO
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Maybe not - though the anti-Israel stance of most / many leftist certainly seems to be getting pretty rabid. And the person I called a ‘leftist’ didn’t dispute that claim.
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Some people love dead Jews.
We love to supremacists who setup camping chairs and bring snacks to watch children be bombed by their supremacists military finally face consequences of the terror they’ve inflicted on so many nations and taste a tiny bit of their own medicine, and they happen to identify as Jews.
Israelis meanwhile unapologetically love watching “Arabs” die at their hands.
Not only die, they love watching them be tortured and raped as well.
I don’t.
But it sure is a little fucking difficult to have a lot of sympathy for fewer than two hundred INJURED Jews when Israel has murdered way more than 20,000 Palestinians - countless instances of running them over alive with bulldozers or tanks, crushing them alive in the treads, or just shooting random kids.
Little fucking difficult to feel too much sympathy there.
Must be “”“anti-zionism”“” again.
It’s a common Israeli talking point to associate any critique of their government with antisemitism.
It’s very transparent.
It’s the same people acting as mouthpieces that are silent when Israel actually targets hospitals or their soldiers torture babies and rape prisoners. Hard to pretend they aren’t the ones indoctrinated to hate a specific set of people.
Your hate towards anyone that isnt subservient to Israel has turned a massively shitty theocratic regime into some kind of weird underdog worth cheering for.
It’s like if Italy and Germany were fighting in WW2 and you dont understand why people are cheering on Italy, but even more, you actually think the Nazis are the good guys. Everyone else is simply going “they both suck but one is clearly worse than the other, because of the genocide and all”.
Put all the quotes that you like but you are either against Zionism or pro genocide.
It’s also a common anti-semite talking point to declare clear-as-day anti-semitism as anti-zionism.
Very transparent.
And btw. I am against zionism while still being able to tell that it’s a bad thing to slaughter civilians. Wonder why you aren’t.
Israel’s & Israeli sympathizer’s labeling of antisemitism for all criticisms is making that phrase meaningless. They’re putting jewish people at risk by hiding behind it.
Just own it, people are hating on that country because they commit war crimes, warmonger nonstop, and use mossad to run pedo rings to influence / control their “allies” governments—then pretend to be the victim.
Has nothing to do with the faith of the people.
Point me towards a comment where you have been critical of Israel bombing hospitals in Lebanon, bombing refugee camps in Palestine or causing over 1000 civilian deaths in Iran these past few weeks.
I know it’s a bad thing to kill civilians. That’s why I’m against the country that goes out of its way to do it. Israel revels in civilian deaths.
cool so we are in agreement as to my initial comment that it is fucked up to cheer dead civilians.
This comment is why I can’t take you at your word when you say you’re against all civilian deaths.
Not only do you not have any proof to give, which might be explainable by you not getting the chance to make such a comment just yet. But instead of simply explaining why and using this chance to call out Israel for their atrocities against civilians, you decided to focus on one part of the comment so you can avoid criticising Israel while claiming the moral high ground.
This is a very typical Zionist tactic which is convincing me more and more that you are not arguing in good faith. I can still be wrong, but you’re not making it easy for me to trust you.
In this case, all the victims are disproportionately Zionists, so what you’re claiming is the less likely thing to be happening here. It’s also very transparent when Zionists try to hide behind the Jew identity so they can avoid consequences for their actions, you know?
There is no possible way for you to know that. You are basing this assumption exclusively where these people happened to have been born.
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There are polls showing the majority of Israelis consider themselves Zionists. For example.
I want to say you’re just uninformed, but I’m way too used to the way Zionists argue to recognise when they are just acting like they don’t know so they can make false arguments that aren’t based on any facts.
And I am sure you would classify “The Jerusalem Post” as a trustworthy source as well, when it doesn’t conform with your views, yes?
Also they asked some 500 people out of almost 10 million Israelis.
I repeat myself: there is no way to know weather the killed civilians were zionists. And even if they were, murdering civilians is bad, regardless of who they are or who does the killing.