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True, but tbf they do have a lot of Ws. They also have a lot of Ls, but that’s not the subject of this conversation.

I hate to defend Iran, but the Iranian regime is in fact very rational. This is easily apparent when you strip away the religious aspect and look at what they actually do. In all direct confrontations with Israel or the US (at least during Khamenei’s rule, I’m not so sure about Khomeini), Iran has responded with measured actions aimed at de-escalation while saving face domestically and internationally and discouraging further aggression. Your image of Iran seems to be built on Western propaganda more than reality (again, I am not saying this to defend the Iranian regime).

Otherwise there would have been an end to sanctions years ago.

Uh… the sanctions are for daring to control their resources contrary to Western capitalist interests. Iran could be the most secular, most democratic country in the world and Western countries would still find a reason to sanction it. Besides, remember JCPOA? It was the US (and by extension the West) that reneged on that deal. Hell, remember the reason the Islamic Republic exists in the first place? Iran, quite rationally, wants to be an independent regional power not subordinate to anybody’s interests (and, again quite rationally, especially not Western interests). This directly contradicts the Western (especially US) demand that all Middle Eastern states be subordinate to their interests and pro-Israel. There can be no reconciliation between these positions (yet Iran tried anyway, see: JCPOA), so securing its position by force is the only realistic prospect, and frankly you can’t argue with results.

And an end to murdering dissidents and protestors.

Here you seem to be conflating rationality with morality. The Iranian regime is evil as fuck, but it’s rationally evil. Murdering challengers to one’s power is very rational from the perspective of a regime primarily concerned with its own survival. See also: the CCP.

The world is safer with less nukes.

The world is safer with no nukes and infinitely unsafe with infinite nukes. It’s appealing to extrapolate from this that less nukes -> more safety, but that’s an unjustified leap of logic. For example take the case of one nuclear state vs two nuclear states. If there’s only one it can force its will on other states, but if there are two they can keep each other in check and drastically reduce the possibility of nukes actually flying.

What. The. Fuck? Libya under Gaddafi didn’t have fucking slave markets you can’t be fucking serious. Also foreign countries dropping bombs isn’t a “revolution” anymore than Soviet-backed regimes in Eastern Europe were revolutionary.

Are you not capable of learning from history? Again, you could’ve said the same thing about Libya. Does Libya in 2026 look like a thriving democracy to you? Then why do you want to do the same thing in Iran?

The solution with the least harm would be for the USA and other NATO allies to help the Iranians overthrow the despots and cut ties with China.

Only if you don’t take into account harm for Iranians in your idea of “harm.” What you’re describing is basically what happened in Libya.

Tbf the US never had that much power, soft or otherwise, over China. The US is (very fortunately) hemorrhaging soft power, but even if they weren’t China would be jumping at this opportunity.

It’s not quite that simple. This is closer to a more reasonable version of the Houthi blockade; there are more criteria than just which country’s flag is flying.

The US is the one who bankrolled, enabled and protected a literal genocide, which is worse than everything you just said.

America, but Vietnam (and Laos, and Cambodia) is still feeling the destructive impacts to this day.

Stop, don’t vs don’t stop moment.

This is one of the reasons why Donald’s idea of ​​turning around, saying he won, and walking away couldn’t work.

I mean it would—if he actually stopped bombing them and helping Israel bomb them. Unilateral de-escalation only works if you actually de-escalate.

Imagine telling someone even like a year or two ago that in this war Iran would be the “good guys”.

They always have been in conflicts with America/Israel. As it turns out, what America and Israel want for Iran is somehow even worse than the Islamic Republic.

I mean, there’s a good chance that whoever downed the plane did say Allahu Akbar in celebration.

I don’t believe in arrests for speech, but justifying shooting up an airport is not my idea of anti-imperialism. Unless the case is being misrepresented, in which case fuck whoever made this arrest.

Absolutely not. Zionists have a lot of money, but most of those Zionists are not in fact Jews. Western imperialists see their interests aligning with Israel, so they support it with money and influence; it’s really that simple. Thinking Israel controls the West is like thinking the hammer controls the carpenter because he doesn’t want it stolen.

Hell no they didn’t. Hitler and crew didn’t need any help massacring everything that moved, and they were backed by German moneyed interests (you know, the people that stood to gain from his rule), not a worldwide Jewish conspiracy. In the first place, WWII didn’t contribute nearly as much as you’d expect to the creation of Israel; if anything it made the British acquiesce to Palestinian demands to secure their support. WWII was the culmination of European great power politics; besides, interwar Poland was one of Zionists’ most important patrons, and its loss almost destroyed the whole project.

Muslims don’t need places to do so (Friday prayer aside), but they have to pray somewhere and they’re also forbidding praying in the street.

Freedom of religion moment.

Okay you seem to fundamentally misunderstand the current state of the EU.

They are both not as rich, and their power is way better regulated, for instance we don’t have the moronic super packs.

Regulations are tools for the elites to protect democracy (or generally their preferred status quo); they’re useless (or less than useless, see: Germany and Palestine) when the elites don’t want the thing you want. That’s why the so-called political opposition is so soft on fascism and incapable of providing credible alternatives to it; they’re not paid to do that.

With Russia collapsing and losing the war to Ukraine, EU countries that are acting in the interest of Russia, will be way less of a problem, and the traditional values of Democracy in EU will be reestablished.

No offense, but this is downright naive. Russia is a backer of fascism in the West, but it’s far from the cause. Fascism isn’t something that just appears because a bunch of internet trolls want it to; it’s a tool for the elites to distract from their intentional misgovernance. The Nazis didn’t need Russia to bankroll them. If democracy was working you wouldn’t get fascism. Besides, TF do you mean “collapse?” Why are you assuming that Russia will collapse? There’s literally no indication of that happening. Even a significantly weakened Russia can and will keep backing the far right.

But EU has proven able to act when necessary during the Ukraine war.

Uh… the EU spent three years putting all sorts of limits and conditions on the weapons they export to Ukraine, still can’t get off its ass and take Russian money in its banks and has done nothing to restrain the US and Israel from messing up geopolitics in ways that harm it and Ukraine. If reform was forthcoming, it’d have happened to free that hundred billion dollars of Ukraine aid that Hungary is holding up. And this is before we even get to the consistent failure of most member states to meaningfully address the most important crises of the day, such as the climate crisis, the housing crisis, the demographic crisis and the ongoing fuel crisis. Meanwhile they adopt the far right’s anti-immigrant and (even more) pro-rich platform, to the active detriment of all the preceding crises and to the advantage of the fascists. Again, if the EU wasn’t a dysfunctional mess, the far right wouldn’t find such purchase in most of its member states. There’s a reason it’s called Alternativ fur Deutschland, not It’s Going Super Well fur Deutschland.

Also around the world the respect for EU is increasing, and acknowledgement of how EU works for international law, is recognized as being different from USA, where previously we were seen as an American puppet,

Uh… got a source for that? Because let me tell you, y’all are still rightly seen as American puppets outside the Global North bubble. Besides, the EU’s commitment to international law is almost as much of a joke as international law itself; you can tell Palestinians about how the EU works for international law.

This will pave the way for way bigger international recognition and cooperation, and make EU stronger both internally and in outside relations. EU is built on cooperation that benefit us all, this is both among the member countries, and with EU allies and trading partners.

Literally none of this is based in reality. For a representative example of the EU decidedly not benefiting trading partners, look up EU fishing in West Africa.