NoneOfUrBusiness

Just had to put a bothsides in there didn’t you? With no real facts to back it up, mind you.

Yes, true, but the main driver of this round of infighting is ISIS-linked drug-trafficking Israeli collaborators. Holy evil bingo lmao.

The fact that they do have business accords and treaties with the Israeli has more to do with the fact that they are neighbors and Israel can basically land lock them, if they want.

They were doing fine until 1994, and less strictly until the early 2010s, so whatever problems they’re solving by trading with Israel are clearly not existential threats. Jordan is too valuable to Western interests for Israel to “landlock them” as you put it. You’d expect an Arab Muslim country to at least boycott Israel, not actively pursue trade relations with them. Given their actions, their rhetoric is meaningless. Now the Jordanian government isn’t run by Zionists obviously, but they clearly give much less of a shit than they want you to think.

I’m curious how you’d say they are more supportive to Israel than say the UK or other European countries, who have -with exemptions- more actively supported the Israeli.

That’s why I said “in the region.”

“But the anti-Hamas figures aren’t people like the Palestinian Authority; the anti-Hamas figures are collaborationist forces with the Israelis."

Implying the PA isn’t a collaborationist force, but also fucking ew.

Surprisingly he’s probably the most tolerable autocrat in that part of the world, but to answer your question: As with half the problems in the Middle East, the Brits did it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel–Jordan_relations

Their rhetoric is passable if you squint, but their actions are really not. It’s a tossup between them, Egypt and the Emirates for the worst Zionist collaborators in the region.

The fact that there’s a whole section titles “economic relations” should tell you all you need to know, but to add insult to injury they helped protect Israel from the April 2024 Iran strikes.

Reset your universe and come back in ~14*10^9 years.

While it’s definitely not helping, the volume of money moving around (less than four million pounds year) is too small to be the only factor at play. (Neo)colonial ambitions, deference to daddy USA and plain inertia probably have at least as much to do with it.

Translation: Me and my fellow Zionist collaborators are doomed because our citizens will notice we’re doing zilch to help Palestinians.

Not exactly the most surprising outcome of all time.

Enjoy. Long story short, though: Former terrorist (as in literally the leader of Igrun), founder of Likud and former Israeli PM. He got the prize with Sadat after signing the peace treaty with Egypt and proceeded to bomb Iraq and invade Lebanon three years later.

Oh, you’re right. TIL.

Neither of these are in the Middle East (Mideast ends at Iraq; everything east of that is Central Asia), but also no.

Ikr? Everyone knows the Nobel peace prize should only go to upstanding global citizens like Henry Kissinger and Menachem Begin.

They literally don’t have a “take;” the article is reporting on a statement made by another organization.

Now y’all know how it feels when we see someone like this guy get a Nobel peace prize.

Maybe the real “elbows up” was the useless neolibs we made along the way.

I’m pretty sure Israel just beat Hezbollah into submission and then signed a “ceasefire” to that effect.

They probably didn’t need much convincing given they really needed American money.

I’m from the region and this is a thing even in places that aren’t and have historically not erupted into violent outbursts. It’s just a local culture thing, and according to Wikipedia isn’t even an exclusively Middle Eastern thing.