A recent InSight report revealed that three of the ELN’s five main fighting divisions operate from Venezuelan territory, using it for logistics, training and cross-border movement
Colombia’s National Liberation Army (ELN) and dissident factions of the former FARC rebel group issued defiant statements following the U.S. military operation in Venezuela that led to the capture of Nicolás Maduro, framing the attack as a violation of regional sovereignty and vowing armed resistance against Washington.
In a statement released by its Eastern War Front, the ELN said that “once again U.S. imperialism violates the national sovereignty of the countries of Our America and the world,” and rejected what it described as a U.S. attack on the “Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela.”
The group expressed “solidarity and support for the Venezuelan people and government” and called on Latin American nations to “reject the gringo aggression, defend national sovereignty, and embrace unity and popular resistance,” as Infobae reports.
Those Colombian guerillas have been hiding in the jungle for decades. When the main body of FARC surrendered in 2017, many of them had never seen a smartphone before. They’ve been living the asymmetric warfare life since god knows when, they would prove extremely difficult to root out.
It would be Vietnam all over again.
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And Afghanistan. And Iraq.
Yet another 20 year war the US will “win”.
We don’t even pretend we won in Vietnam.
Oh you might be surprised how many think they did.
Same with Afghanistan
Because some people go: akshually, we inflicted more casualties on the Vietnamese than they did to us so technically we are not defeated.
It’s an often repeated excuse since the US signed the Paris Peace accords and agreed to pull out of Vietnam. A US official at the time told that to his North Vietnamese counterpart. The based North Vietnamese official quipped “that may be the case, but that is irrelevant.”
So dumb. Who’s in charge when the dust clears? There’s your winner.
Hint: It wasn’t America. It’s never America. We haven’t won an armed conflict since WWII. Guerilla Warfare is highly effective against a massive force that can’t get out of its own way.
After 20 years, and trillions of dollars, we left Afghanistan, and the Taliban was back in power within hours. What a waste.
Osama Bin laden won 9/11.
Theres Grenada and Panama.
Invading elementary schools doesn’t count.
Also the defense contractors are likely happy that this happened, more moeny for them, and keeping the war going as long as possible even if there is no end in sight.
That’s the point of ALL wars these days. The outcome never really works out, the people are never going to be pleased with the American invaders, even if they did take out the dictator. The likelihood is that they killed a whole lot of people doing that.
The big winner in any war is the military industrial complex, and they are always the ones shouting for more war.
They’ve been sitting around since the end of Afghanistan, restocking the shelves, but that’s finished, and everybody is itching to get back to production, so it’s time for a new war.
What scares me is Trump may actually “win”.
By this I mean, in Vietnam the US had an interest in installing a puppet government and having another state to oppose the Soviet Union.
Trump just wants the oil fields. He’s not above leveling the whole country just to ensure access to the oil fields. He’s flirted with the idea of nukes before and I don’t put it past him to indiscriminately nuke large swaths of the rainforest/interior of Venezuela.
He’s mad enough to do it too, and his base will support him. We’ve known a US that commits war crimes and then tries to ignore them. We’ve never seen a US willing to proudly and loudly commit war crimes to achieve its goals.
Now is it a victory to render nearly half the country unliveable for decades? I personally dont think so, but Trump does and that’s the issue
funny vietnam ended up being friendly/frenimies with the US overtime.
I wouldn’t say friendly more like not hostile.
Like I wouldn’t call China a friendly country to the US, but they are jts biggest trading partner
Except that Venezuela & Colombia are a lot closer to the US and a lot of the US population already speaks Spanish and the fact that a decent portion of the military is Hispanic.
not exactly, many venezuelans hate venezuela and maduro for displacing millions. hence why they are all voting republicans. its the same with vietnamese people too, very pro-right wing.
What point do you think youre making here? Everything you listed is a reason it would be tougher for the US than Afghanistan or Vietnam.
Being tougher than Afghanistan or Vietnam was the point I was trying to make. A war in Venezuela or Colombia would be even more of a quagmire than Vietnam.
I missread. My bad.
None of that matters.
It does actually, but against an invading army. There are reports of Russian fighters having trouble executing orders because the “enemy” also spoke Russian in some instances of the Ukraine/Russia war.
When there is a common language, the people sent to fight might notice there is more in common between them and the people on the other side than with the people in power that sent them there to die if needed.
Matters to what?
In the context we are talking about.
What do you mean? Those are objective differences. Whats your point?
Oh and uh actually it’s happening in a different year and the uniforms are different so really it’s objectively different to Vietnam after all checkmate
yes, clearly
Hint: the Colombian military speak fluent Spanish and know the territory.
They have really good counterinsurgency units that have been fighting the guerrillas for years, with material and intelligence support from the USA.
They have been unable to destroy the guerrillas. And when the current government tried to end the remaining ones via negotiation, they sprawled again and basically toke control of the Catatumbo department.
If the US military get entangled in that fight, they will lose. After killing a lot of innocent civilians in the process.
If you think that makes all the difference in the world. Good for you. Here’s your reward.
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I wasnt making any point, i was just asking yours. But i guess you dont have one either