Alberta's decision to hold a referendum on separation has been widely criticised, including by separatists who say the question is not definitive enough.
Yep - but as can be seen with every influence campaign ever, the functional approach is to take pre-existing sentiment and add momentum to it rather than going trying to create public sentiment out of nothing.
Worth noting that the ab government interceded to lower the threshold. Also that polling puts “leave” at low 20%. Also worth noting that “leave” support is actually declining as the months go by. Also worth noting that when pollsters ask a follow-up question (do you still support leaving if that means AB becomes responsible for its own defense, currency, passports, border control, etc etc etc) support drops to mid 10%. Incidentally, support from greenlanders joining the US when Trump said he needed Greenland was also mid 10%.
Polling shows that once push comes to shove, about as many albertans seriously support indepence as greenlanders want to be annexed by the USA.
Is it serious? Yes, in the sense that predatory bad-faith politics is serious. Foreign actors attempting to apply pressure on Canadian politics is very serious.
Is it serious in the sense of “is the idea of leaving Canada something that Albertans seriously support?”, no.
Yeah. Even having enough petition signatures to go to a vote doesn’t mean much. A lot of those signatures will be “I don’t think we should, but let’s put it to a vote”.
Don’t waste your time arguing. Half the people here think that every single American loves our current pres., despite every metric showing that he’s the least popular in history, bolstered by Russia, China, and the wealthiest 1% in world history, who gamed a weighted voting standard to eke out a win during one of the biggest inflationary periods in history. /rant
I don’t say it to argue, just to inform. What I want is for people to give it the gravity that it deserves… very little. To speak from a place of informed reason rather than emotional reaction.
“Lol, like 15% of the population would vote to leave why are you wasting your time, Danielle”
That’s what I want.
Because the uninformed emotional reaction is what Danielle wants. She is the most incompetent premiere in my lifetime. Rather than have any kind of real agenda or vision, her bizarre strategy is to just keep people upset.
No real legislation. Or plans. Or dealings. Like a Jr high mean girl trying to stay popular by starting drama. It only has any power if you buy into the drama. Don’t buy into the drama.
Wow. I had no idea so many Canadians wanted to do something so stupid.
Kremlin propaganda is one hell of a drug
The separatist mouvement started before Russia was created.
Yep - but as can be seen with every influence campaign ever, the functional approach is to take pre-existing sentiment and add momentum to it rather than going trying to create public sentiment out of nothing.
Damn you Putin
I wouldn’t say so many so much as a loud group of idiot assholes.
Worth noting that the ab government interceded to lower the threshold. Also that polling puts “leave” at low 20%. Also worth noting that “leave” support is actually declining as the months go by. Also worth noting that when pollsters ask a follow-up question (do you still support leaving if that means AB becomes responsible for its own defense, currency, passports, border control, etc etc etc) support drops to mid 10%. Incidentally, support from greenlanders joining the US when Trump said he needed Greenland was also mid 10%.
Polling shows that once push comes to shove, about as many albertans seriously support indepence as greenlanders want to be annexed by the USA.
Is it serious? Yes, in the sense that predatory bad-faith politics is serious. Foreign actors attempting to apply pressure on Canadian politics is very serious.
Is it serious in the sense of “is the idea of leaving Canada something that Albertans seriously support?”, no.
Yeah. Even having enough petition signatures to go to a vote doesn’t mean much. A lot of those signatures will be “I don’t think we should, but let’s put it to a vote”.
It’s only like 6% of the population too.
Don’t waste your time arguing. Half the people here think that every single American loves our current pres., despite every metric showing that he’s the least popular in history, bolstered by Russia, China, and the wealthiest 1% in world history, who gamed a weighted voting standard to eke out a win during one of the biggest inflationary periods in history. /rant
I don’t say it to argue, just to inform. What I want is for people to give it the gravity that it deserves… very little. To speak from a place of informed reason rather than emotional reaction.
“Lol, like 15% of the population would vote to leave why are you wasting your time, Danielle”
That’s what I want.
Because the uninformed emotional reaction is what Danielle wants. She is the most incompetent premiere in my lifetime. Rather than have any kind of real agenda or vision, her bizarre strategy is to just keep people upset.
No real legislation. Or plans. Or dealings. Like a Jr high mean girl trying to stay popular by starting drama. It only has any power if you buy into the drama. Don’t buy into the drama.
“O Canada!
Our home and native land!”
it’s native land. It’s in the song in the first line as a constant reminder for these fuck wits to never forget.