United States President Donald Trump says Washington had armed Iranian opposition groups and protesters during mass antigovernment demonstrations in December and January, in which thousands of people were killed during crackdowns by government forces.
Here’s how these things happen: there is dissatisfaction with the government-- in this case, yes general unhappiness with the theocracy, but acutely with severe economic strain brought about by draconian sanctions. This situation, engineered in part by external forces, is then amplified and aggravated by those same external forces. This doesn’t mean that the majority of those on the streets were agents of the US/Israel, but there were absolutely those agents there. Israel explicitly admitted as much at the time. That situation was absolutely the beginning stage of the war.
i don’t get the cope in this thread. it’s something the us does do with some regularity, and i thought you guys disliked trump’s fascism anyway.
why the desperation to vilify iran in a war you claim to not even want to fight?
Because this is one of those other cases where BOTH sides are bad. I KNOW! Who could have known that is possible, it’s unheard of!
Because this is one of those other cases where BOTH sides are bad.
The thing with moral relativism is that it puts the two subjects on the same level. But are they?
One side represses legitimate but dangerous riots with violence, the other kills schoolgirls at their desks during class hours.
by the us government’s open admission, apparently not.
and they are being fine anti imperialists lately. why vilify them at precisely this moment?
In all the videos I saw of the Iranian regime killing protesters, the protesters were all unarmed.
This smells like progranda to me.
Yeah, this wasn’t some civil war scenario. Iran was simply mass-murdering the people.
Yes, but it’s left-wing propaganda, so you’re supposed to let it slide.
…which of these two governments is left wing, exactly?
The propaganda that the Iranian government was only being protested because western colonial powers were prompting it is left-wing propaganda. That it also happens to serve the interests of right-wing religious fascists in Iran doesn’t mean it doesn’t also serve the interests of the left.
You may be surprised to learn that the far left support any government, no matter how repressive, if it stands up to the US and “westerners” in general.
What is left wing about that? Sounds like Russian propaganda. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear something like that from AfD or FPÖ … and they hate Muslims but they also repeat everything Sputnik writes.
The fact that you think the US has any form of “far left” presence beyond fringe college clubs and CIA honeypots says everything
Not that I necessarily disagree with your first point, I just don’t see it as evidence of the existence of a far left. The Iranian people have been protesting the Iranian government on their own for ages.
I’m not talking specifically about the US far left. I’m talking about Lemmy / Mbin / Fediverse leftists who celebrate Iran as an opponent to the US and then retcon that the government of Iran must not have legitimate internal opposition. Some of them are probably based in the US as well. I’m not clear on where technocrit is from.
The term you’re looking for is “tankies”
I think there’s more nuance. Tankies love Russia and North Korea. If you don’t like those two but you think Venezuela, Iran, and Iran’s proxies are just fine, you may not be a tankie, but you are leaning that way.
Is technocrit a tankie? If so, he or she hides enough of it to get lots of support from lemmy.world leftists. The same people who are happy to bitch about hexbear and lemmy.ml seem to find little wrong with technocrit and tropicaldingdong.
Meanwhile the Iranian Kurds states never receiving any such arms nor are they taking part in the US war
The Kurds should trust the US again. How does the saying go?
Trust them eight times and get betrayed every single time, trust them again and get betrayed just for old times sake - Unknown western diplomat
“Being an enemy of America is dangerous, but being its friend is fatal.”
You’re justifying their executions if you claim they are being armed by foreign enemies. This helps no one but arms manufacturers.
You’re justifying their executions
Only if you’re incapable of holding two thoughts in your head at the same time.
I didn’t listen too hard because a Trump supporter provided the information… but someone told me recently (yesterday) that Trump tried to arm a militia group who’d worked with the US in the past. Supposedly that group was supposed to arm the civilians but they kept the weapons for themselves.
Honestly, would be fucking crazy either way. Because, in that case, it sounds like Trump spooked the Iranian government into its atrocities.
Edit: they were talking about Iranian Kurdish opposition factions
Edit 2: this article brings it up https://nypost.com/2026/04/05/us-news/president-trump-reveals-us-attempted-to-funnel-weapons-to-iranian-protesters-claims-regime-slaughtered-45k/
A guilty comprador seldom admits guilt.
Well… Technically, he didn’t say they were successfully armed. He said there was an attempt made but he thought the arms didn’t make it to the protesters.
Edit: Still seems like a big deal for it to be confirmed in any sense.
Aljazeera
I really believe that Trump is able to do the most stupid things, sane people cannot even come up with. But I would very much like to see a credible source before I believe that.
Al Jazeera is mot a reputable source anymore?
Like all news orginizations, Al Jazeera is shit when you compare it to the platonic ideal of news. However, when you compare it to Western media, it’s solidly middle of the pack. During the Gaza genocide, it was the Al Jazeera reporters who were on the ground and targeted for death.
The biggest criticism of Al Jazeera is the race/religion of it’s reporters. People are going to show up to tell me that it’s Qatari state-run. But those same people don’t feel the same about DW, BBC, or NPR.
The best evidence for Al Jazeera’s credibility is they are constantly being banned in Israel for reporting on that regime’s crimes.
I bet Trump is gonna “confirm” CCP Claims that he’s “personally funding” “Taiwan Independence” so that CCP has an excuse to invade, but then he’s also not gonna help Taiwan…
Literally just playing both sides lol…
Claims that he’s “personally funding” “Taiwan Independence”
How would that materialize? Because if it’s by selling weapons, they’ve never been shy about it.
As if them being unarmed would change your worldview, OP.
Treating Trump as a source of any kind of truth is extremely shaky.
