• FaygoRedPop@lemmy.world
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    I hate Trump. Fuck Trump.

    However, out of all the disgusting and ghastly shit Trump has done and said, this one is not that bad. Poor taste, sure. Racist? Come on. Did you even read it? It was actually witty compared to his typical knuckle dragging bullshit.

    A reporter asked Trump why he didn’t tell U.S. allies, including European and Asian countries, such as Japan, that he was planning joint military strikes with Israel on Iran.

    “One thing, you don’t want to signal too much when we go in,” Trump said. “We went in very hard and we didn’t tell anyone about it because we wanted surprise. Who knows better about surprise than Japan? Why didn’t you tell me about Pearl Harbor?”

    This guy is a sex predator, pedo who is trying to be a dictator and is taking our democratic rights away. Let’s focus on that first. Don’t let this petty bullshit be the focus.

    I’ll take my downvotes now.

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      Like half way through trumps first term I thought people would stop taking everything he says extremely literally but here we still are. People are out here thinking he’s so far gone that he literally thinks he was president during pearl harbor and that his counterpart was running Japan. He has dementia but come on, you have to encounter reality deeper than just reading headlines and jerking yourself off with them.

      This is just how he talks and has talked. He just made a stupid comparison while trying to deflect a question.

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      I guess he could always do worse and joke about Hiroshima…but I wont give more ideas…

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      Yeah but this anecdote betrays his shitty personality. At the end of the day he is an unapologetic child rapist first and foremost, and it’s hard to imagine what could surpass that depravity, but these little vignettes help paint the picture who have trouble believing the commander-in-chief is also the chomo-in-chief.

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      I’m sorry but this is terrible diplomacy and diminishes America’s soft power on the world stage.

      Yes we’re moving into a multipolar world where soft power matters less but narrative building is always relevant and rubbing your allies the wrong way is just terrible strategy from any vantage point.

      Trump’s caused so much damage to Western credibity in so little time just by highlighting and widening fault lines at a records pace. This will create a vacuum that others will seek to occupy. This comment may not seem like much but it’s another little cut that will slowly bleed away America and the West’s standing in the world.

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        Has he really damaged Western credibility, or is he only damaging the USA’s credibility? I’ve not seen reports that Trump’s behaviour is impacting how others feel about Canada, France or Germany. Trump’s behaviour really only reflects on the global opinions of the USA, as other countries and their populations are generally intelligent enough to understand that he is only elected by one country; only represents one country; and is only the product of the population of one country.

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          Many Western countries follow along and act as cheerleaders for US foreign policy. Seven countries (including Canada, France and Germany) have already signed on to help secure the Strait of Hormuz which is only blocked because of yet another US misadventure.

          A lot of these countries are small and in terms of global influence would be middle powers at best if not part of a Western bloc. Trump is slowly eroding the concept of a Western bloc so the idea of collective credibility or collective values is eroding with that.

          Most of the rest of the world sees Western countries as vassals of the US and the question now is will they be able to assert their independence on the world stage or will they simply go along with the US as they often do.

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            Care to point to any reports that other nations are viewing those other Western countries poorly as a result of Trump’s actions?

            Securing the Strait of Hormuz seems to be self-interested actions by those nations; an attempt to reduce the impact of higher oil prices on their own economies. It’s a far cry from the Western world following the USA into Iraq with boots on the ground 20-odd years ago.

            Trump is eroding the idea of a USA-led Western bloc. Canada’s PM Carney is leading the charge to create new middle-power blocs to establish credibility outside of the USA’s influence. I’m yet to see reports that those measures are being viewed in a negative fashion by the rest of the world, but I’m happy to be corrected.

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              It’s a matter of perspective. The Global South has always been acutely aware of Western hypocrisy and double standards, often being the victim of its perfidiousness. It’s just that the mask seems to be coming off now so the internal contradictions are much more apparent. People like Alexander Stubbe (Finland’s president) and Mark Carney understand this. Much of what Mark Carney said in his speech at Davos are perspectives that have been shared by prominent figures in the global south for some time now. He deserves credit for sharing it in a way that is palatable to Westerners. It remains to be seen if, in the abscense of the US as a central stabilizing force, an ex-US Western bloc would be able to maintain its global credibility and influence.

              As the Global South (which makes up 80% of humanity) gains a more prominent voice on the global stage, certain internal contradictions will continue to move into the spotlight and Western credibility will be at risk of further erosion. The question is will the West be able to adapt in real time - acknowledging that the so called ‘rules based international order’ was never really a fair playing field but a tool to maintain Western hegemony - and take a leadership role in shaping the new world order.

              Stubbe explains this well from a Western perspective in his book The Triangle of Power Rebalancing the New World Order (the triangle referring to the Global West, East and South).