Wow, Canada is only addressing vocal minorities, while ignoring other minorities, without the means to equal position in society. Which country is non-repressive enough for a minority to move to? There isn’t, aparently I’ll just have to accept being in a concentration camp in a few years. Great.
How is this “world news”? The news is the full list and not just Canada.
Doesn’t feel like it lately with how the conservatives are acting…
Glad to see folks🧵 questioning such blatant bait.
Rainbow Map has done an extensive peer reviewed study on this. Fuck🖕sales.
Huh, I’m surprised to see Spain being so green. Wouldn’t have thought it possible years ago when I lived there.
Nice to see Denmark is basically 100%.
Sad to see Eastern Europe being so red and orange. I got some gay friends there. Was hoping it’d get safer for them as time went on…
Terrifying. That’s the bar?
From the Article:
Yeah that list is bullshit.
Why the fuck is the UK even listed at all? The country that proudly says, that it is determining sex based on what you were born with and that everyone has to use bathrooms AS according to their birth sex.
UK here. Starmer went full TERF for some moronic reason (far from his first bad decision), but we still have only non-gender-specific toilets at my rather large workplace. So it’s bigoted and nasty, but it hasn’t been applied with the fascist zeal that it would be in the States.
FWIW the Starmer thing everyone gets upset over was his office citing a recent court ruling.
How common are gender neutral restrooms in the UK in general? I’m generally curious, since at least in Germany its not that common to find some.
Because it’s a list about safety, not about beliefs. Regardless of what “the country says”, you are not in any danger if you disagree. And outside of that issue, it’s a very welcoming country for LGBT folks (yes, including T, despite what the government may say).
Especially since it’s in the context of travel, so citizen rights are less relevant as they don’t apply to you anyway, and it’s much more relevant how you are going to be treated as a tourist, as you choose from the several LGBT friendly pubs down the road.
And that’s still hyper focusing on one issue, totally ignoring the list also concerns safety for women and people of color, which can bring you up on the list.
it’s a very welcoming country for LGBT folks (yes, including T, despite what the government may say)
I live in a largely rural county, and that’s been my experience too. A lot of the pubs and clubs in town not only have substantial LGBT clientele, but also management, and the straight clients don’t seem at all bothered by that. And it’s common to see groups of neighbors and coworkers that include same-sex couples. I’d venture that racism and xenophobia are more pervasive here than homophobia. And even those don’t seem that bad-- my visibly foreign wife and kids got more shit in London than they do here. I’m foreign too, though not visibly, and I’ve never had problems, except a couple encounters with belligerent drunks, and those are easily handled. Those idiots would pick a fight with a hatstand and still manage to lose.
The government of a country usually reflects, at least partially, what its voters/citizens think…
That would sure be nice, unfortunately the UK has the common problem of being able to either vote for the bad option or the worse option, neither of which is what most people want, they only disagree about which one is the worse one.
Unfortunately the current government was voted in under quite a different pretext to how they’re acting now. They were also the only other prominent option at the time.
proud of us 💪🇳🇱
Hell yeah, men noorderburen! (Aka: de niet verlegen scheten die Nederlands praten) ❤️🫡
wat de belgie???
What a low bar the world has for safety when this terf island is so high in the rankings
Interesting to compare that to the ILGA Rainbowmap which just contains Europe.
The european countries from the list above rank as follows:
- Netherlands 13th
- France 15th
- Austria 16th
- UK 22nd (below EU average)
- Ireland 14th
- Iceland 3rd
- Switzerland 18th
Now obviously they use different scoring (‘travel’ vs ‘living there’) but I think it is interesting that they differ that much. Also the groups differ and the one from the article seems pretty broad. I would hope everywhere with substantial progress in LGBTQIA+ rights would also have proper womens rights and protections as well, since it is the same side of the (manysided) equality-coin. Imo racism is still pretty bad and widespread across europe, so not sure how much that factors into the list (though if it would be a strong factor I would be surprised to see Austria and Switzerland on this list).
I don’t think it’s surprising the lists differ a lot.
- Living there - will be more about the governments beliefs, and the law
- Travel - will be more about what everyday people think and treat others
These are often very different, on any issue.
Absolutely - I was going to say, Spain is head and shoulders above the UK for LGBT safety (those are the only two countries I’ve spent a lot of time in recently).
Also worth noting, I’ve been in the non-touristy parts of north Vietnam for a month now (much more conservative than the south), and having talked to quite a few LGBT people here, it’s safe to live as an openly queer person, they just occasionally have to put up with assholes … just like everywhere else. And as a guiri, even the assholes don’t want to confront me, an obviously queer woman.
I’m surprised that the Netherlands don’t make it into the top 10 though. My German view is definitely biased, but when I travel there it just feels like (well, used to feel like) they got other stuff to think about than other people’s gender and sexuality. Be what you want to be, as long as you’re going to our coffee shops kind of. As basically all European countries are shifting to the right more and more, I imagine the relaxed climate has also changed. Also the Netherlands are more than just the big cities, God knows how LGBTQA+ friendly they are in Overjissel. I only played cow cricket there.
I’m not a woman, nor LGBTQ+, but to me at least, this graph looks a lot closer to reality.
I love you, Canada. I want to join you one day. Please acquire California.
38.33% of Californians voted for Trump last election. In our most right-wing province of Alberta, 21% of people hold positive views of Trump. Adding a blue state to Canada would bring in millions of far-right voters and move our country significantly right.
Let’s remain friends. :)
This is interesting, but I felt the measures used aren’t right. It’s to be expected that a leader who’s antagonising your country would be disliked, even when their ideology is similar to yours.
To be able to compare well enough in the little time I have in my busy life, I had to go by a methodology that is not perfect but allows some comparison. It’s the Political Compass.
According to this site, during the 2025 federal elections, the Conservative party was 8,7 (economic scale and social scale respectively), while Trump was 9,9 during the last presidential elections. It means Trump is to the right of the Conservative party, but not by a lot.
I have to go now but I’ll try later to find the proportion of Albertan voterd who voted for the Conservative party.
EDIT: 63,5% of Albertan voters voted for the CPC. It’s still hard to compare that statistic to the proportion of Californian voters who voted for Trump, but my feeling is that California isn’t far removed from Alberta, perhaps it is even left of Alberta.
I doubt those fuckers would stay in California if we left to join you.
Given our own right wingers would rather seperate an entire province than just join the states themselves, i doubt your rigbt wingers would just walk away from california in this hypothetical scenario
Not a risk I’m willing to take :/
Edit: and who knows? Our level of free healthcare may radicalize them :)
But “no kings,” right?
I would be open to that movement.
Blogspam. Original: https://www.bhtp.com/blog/safest-places-to-travel/
The list of safest overall:
- Netherlands
- Australia
- Austria
- Iceland
- Canada
- New Zealand
- United Arab Emirates
- Switzerland
- Japan
- Ireland
- Belgium
- Portugal
- France
- United Kingdom
- Denmark
They have other lists in there too.
The UAE being on that list immediately screams that this list is horse shit, possibly specifically UAE funded.
Despite being a proud Canadian this seems to be the only logical conclusion.
How is UAE No. 7?! There are literally emirates where you will get assaulted on the streets for being visibly non cishet, from what I’ve heard. Also according to Wikipedia, gay people can be murdered for the crime of being gay there, and according to Virgin Atlantic, you are not allowed to import “flyers promoting anti-Islam (including GSM) propaganda, intended for distribution”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates
https://www.virginatlantic.com/policies/dangerous-or-restricted-items
UAE is like Saudi Arabia (maybe not quite as extreme), where there’s a big LBGT scene on the down-low, but also draconian laws against it that are selectively enforced. Think Victorian England, but with more executions. And similar levels of hypocrisy. I worked over there, and queer colleagues were never short of companionship, but they had to be very deeply closeted. And every couple of years, the government would raid a club, arrest a few people, torture them and maybe decapitate a few. And, like everything over there, if you have money and/or connections, it’s easier for you.
How is UAE No. 7?! There are literally emirates where you will get assaulted on the streets for being visibly non cishet, from what I’ve heard
Are they pull this list out of their ass? Like seriously? UAE?
No Scandinavian countries among top 10?
That doesn’t seem right.I dont trust the data any more. You should check how they managed to create the list, which sources they used etc. Most of the data are made by the West, so West countries top the list all the time. Thailand should definitely be in top 10!
Thailand should definitely be in top 10!
From what I have heard, that seems right.
heard
Sure ;)
Yes I heard from LGBT people who have been to Thailand, I have never been there myself.
So quit the completely baseless innuendo.
Thailand should definitely be in top 10!
I’m not entirely sure that all of the trans people are safe and well treated in Thailand.
Doesn’t it apply to all the countries in the list too?
I’ve also heard good things about Argentina
Our country isn’t easy to get in to but you are definitely welcome! There’s no place free of bigots but at least in the cities there are enough of us to protect you.
Edit: not easy as an immigrant I mean. Getting permanent residence (PR), etc. Tourists from most countries should have little trouble travelling (as long as you don’t have a layover in the USA).
And depending on the area many small towns are probably fine also.
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I realise this isn’t targeted at me.
but for anyone reading
There is desperate need accross the nation for professionals at all levels of care. The exception to my above comment is if you’re in an in-demand field. It will be much easier. The scope of that may have narrowed but nurses, care workers, etc. are in high demand everywhere here and will fast-track you for sure.
Edit: and our birthrate is dangerously low. We need immigrants to continue to exist as a nation.
I’m a nurse but life is too good in Belgium. Only thing I miss here is your astonishing nature and the legal green. Though it’s not worth trading my friends, family and culture over for me.
A nephew of mine did take the leap and lives with his Canadian girlfriend (yes I know this is a meme, but I’ve met her a couple of times, she’s real) somewhere in Canada. Should definitely plan for a visit once my babies are a little bit older.
What if I promise to become a nurse if you (Canada) puts me through the schooling and gives me citizenship?
Idk, but in an ideal world we would facilitate that. Look into your options.
It’s been a while since I looked into it and, unless things have changed, I can’t get into Canada… I’ve tried.
