Independent Persian has received messages from protestors within Iran via Starlink satellite that describe a ‘war-like situation’. Amirhossein Miresmaeili reports
As much as I hate the tankies that love the IRCG because they are too dumb to understand that two things can be bad.
I think western meddling would also be bad, so far Mosad has taken responsibility ISIS style (it’s a win-win for them, the more paranoid and brutal Iran act the better they look)
He’ll absolutely find a way to fuck it up into some sort of humanitarian catastrophe, make money off of it, and push the average opinion that Iranian people have of America even lower.
I’d say the current situation in Iran is comparable to civil war; support for the rebels would probably help speed up things and reduce deaths on their side.
The only war is the ongoing one with Israel and the US and Iran and their allies. I suspect your media and sources of information are doing you a disservice if you see things like that.
Be honest, do you see the theocratical regime in Iran as a positive thing? Iran under the Shah was pretty progressive and actually gave a shit about basic human rights, something you can’t say about Iran today.
The Shah was incredibly repressive. Infamous secret police. The ruling class had some rights, got their pictures taken smiling.
This is all just trying to restart the war and you are going along with it, why? Because you believe them? That the shah was great, that the protests can topple the regime here?
I have no say in the government of Iran. The only thing we have a say in is if we give the worst people in the world cause to war against them more. You don’t either. Iran government mean, US/Israel Warring good, is your logic here.
As if that would help anything, it would make it worse. But helping isn’t the point, distracting the public for israel is.
I didn’t ask if you have a say in the Iranian government. I asked you a very simple yes or no question. You evading to answer speaks for itself. I have nothing more to discuss with the likes of you.
Well it certainly would have meaning. Not likely a good outcome, of course.
Ideally we could support the protesters/rebels somehow. The idea of threatening US military action is to put more pressure on the Iranian regime with the hope that they’ll collapse and run away. Won’t work tho because they’re religious / ideological and will fight to their deaths.
No it won’t work to unseat the regime. They are still at war right now with the US for all intents and purposes, and as such are in a rally around the flag situation.
It will work for the US and israel to restart hostilities with Iran however. Then Israel can distract issues and delay elections, and not admit their leaders made mistakes, for a while longer. In the US it’s Israel First as always.
This is the first time Trump could actually do something meaningful to improve something in the world. I wouldn’t hold my breath.
As much as I hate the tankies that love the IRCG because they are too dumb to understand that two things can be bad.
I think western meddling would also be bad, so far Mosad has taken responsibility ISIS style (it’s a win-win for them, the more paranoid and brutal Iran act the better they look)
He’ll absolutely find a way to fuck it up into some sort of humanitarian catastrophe, make money off of it, and push the average opinion that Iranian people have of America even lower.
He couldn’t even fuck up covid into a scam. Like imagine making Trump brand face masks. They would have sold like hotcakes.
They did, but they weren’t a Trump-launched thing. There’s a correlation there.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kadiagoba/etsy-trump-face-masks-coronavirus
You think starting a second Iran War is “meaningful?” Wow.
Ironic you no doubt lament and scorn the right for falling for propaganda.
I’d say the current situation in Iran is comparable to civil war; support for the rebels would probably help speed up things and reduce deaths on their side.
The only war is the ongoing one with Israel and the US and Iran and their allies. I suspect your media and sources of information are doing you a disservice if you see things like that.
Be honest, do you see the theocratical regime in Iran as a positive thing? Iran under the Shah was pretty progressive and actually gave a shit about basic human rights, something you can’t say about Iran today.
The Shah was incredibly repressive. Infamous secret police. The ruling class had some rights, got their pictures taken smiling.
This is all just trying to restart the war and you are going along with it, why? Because you believe them? That the shah was great, that the protests can topple the regime here?
You didn’t answer my question. Do you approve of the current status of Iran as a theocratical-military dictatorship?
I have no say in the government of Iran. The only thing we have a say in is if we give the worst people in the world cause to war against them more. You don’t either. Iran government mean, US/Israel Warring good, is your logic here.
As if that would help anything, it would make it worse. But helping isn’t the point, distracting the public for israel is.
I didn’t ask if you have a say in the Iranian government. I asked you a very simple yes or no question. You evading to answer speaks for itself. I have nothing more to discuss with the likes of you.
Yeah the basic human rights of BP to have access to Iran’s resources
Well it certainly would have meaning. Not likely a good outcome, of course.
Ideally we could support the protesters/rebels somehow. The idea of threatening US military action is to put more pressure on the Iranian regime with the hope that they’ll collapse and run away. Won’t work tho because they’re religious / ideological and will fight to their deaths.
No it won’t work to unseat the regime. They are still at war right now with the US for all intents and purposes, and as such are in a rally around the flag situation.
It will work for the US and israel to restart hostilities with Iran however. Then Israel can distract issues and delay elections, and not admit their leaders made mistakes, for a while longer. In the US it’s Israel First as always.
We could call it “Operation Ajax Part II: The Stupiding”