Bruh, for most of the US the US is a malign actor.
For most of the world, capital is a malign actor and the US has the highest concentration.
Unironically
No no, just keep chanting “USA! Number one!” more often again. That’ll mend it. LOL. Or at least just give us all a good laugh at you. Always funny when you guys do that. Like “this is fine” wasn’t strong enough.
I hear you. This isn’t fine.
However those of us that are not willing to give up and let MAGA and the Claremont conservatives win should not cede patriotism. Symbols are important.
It’s our country and it is great because people stood up and defended it.
Now is our turn to defend freedom.
The MAGA peeps are not your tyrant to overthrow. They’re people with the same principle you espouse with:
It’s our country and it is great because people stood up and defended it.
Now is our turn to defend freedom.
The sooner people realise that, the better, for ceasing falling for pitchforks vs torches, and realising the man behind the curtain; realising the emperor wears no clothes.
This is no time for pitchforks vs torches.
Spread the word. Stop falling for it.
The lesser-consequence differences that divide you are trumped up by your oppressor, to keep you divided and conquered. Stop falling for it. Unite for freedom. Stop uniting with authoritarian curated divisive groupthink. Every little of this helps.
If you only consider Europe most the world it would be true bit no the usa beem a malign actor for several decades
I was gonna say, only now? I’m in the US and can see it’s been a bad actor since at least the end of WW2.
I was gonna say, only now?
We love to play the “Obama/Biden were the good ones, they knew how to bomb people and sanction countries ethically” game.
For all Trump’s poison, he was dead to rights on the idea of the Deep State - the core bureaucracy of the US government that demands global hegemony and just can’t decide how to achieve it.
Trump’s been miserable at executing hegemony the liberal way. And we’re expected to believe this will make his administration a failure.
But then you look at fascist Middle Eastern states expanding their territory, South American dictatorships sprouting like weeds, and far-right parties gaining ground all over Europe. Hard to ignore that Palantir is doing just fine. White Nationalists are having a heyday from Texas to Tel Aviv.
Clearly, US hegemony is expanding, just not in the way the Clinton/Cheney neocons imagined it.
Corporate Media can’t seem to decided whether we’re undergoing a fascist takeover or finally Making America Great Again.
I dread to read what the history books say about our country in another ten years, knowing what kind of fucked up AI is writing them today.
Yeah this isn’t really headline news, unfortunately.
I mean, “now” is doing a lot of load-bearing work in that sentence, but it’s also hard to argue it isn’t markedly worse than it used to be.
I guess unless you’re Russia and their circle. I’m starting to wonder about China, too, considering the geopolitical wedgie they’re giving the US right now.
It is only worse for europe, it was always as bad for the rest of the world. The article make it seems like europe is most of the world. Europe and canada has a history of pretending to oppose the USA foreign policies in the rest of the world while supporting it in secret
Buuuullshit.
Utter garbage.
Extremely nope.
It takes deliberate ignorance to reach that conclusion. Forget the cuts in aid, which an article two posts up the chain here was directly linking to a worsening of cholera in South Sudan, the notion that anybody in Brazil or Mexico is going “I can’t tell the difference” is ludicrous. Your mileage may vary on whether Trump invading Venezuela is a good or a bad thing, but I’m pretty sure the regime there isn’t going “same thing, really”.
I guess the Argentitian government would say things are better now, considering they just got bailed out in what amounts to buying a midterm election. In that case I’d wager it’s the opposition who doesn’t find things were just as bad a couple years ago.
What the hell do you have to be on to think only Europe has noticed open fascists being in charge in the US. This is why I’ve been taking a break from this place, holy crap.
The aids that rsf and israel can block whenever they like thanks to the usa allowing them no matter who is in power.
I hate to compare terrible things but do you really believe that currently what happening in Venezuela is worst than the destruction of Libya, the iraq war, the afghanistan war etc which canada and europe was complicit with the USA?
Do you also really believe that europe and canada cares about Sudan? Their goddamn weapons are found in Sudan and they have no sanctions on the UAE
It takes a prodigious amount of entitlement to look at things that way. The leap of logic from a tangible action to… some other thing that happened requires keeping the loosest possible tally and looking at international politics strictly from the lens of how it affects your worldview, rather than the actual impact on the ground.
No, my dear online performative leftist, the US deciding to reverse their policy and cut tens of billions of international aid is not “the same” as whatever war, political stance or act of interference you vaguely remember being mad about a decade ago. They can both be bad without both being the same.
I mean, never mind that the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were started by Bush, in turn the proto-Trump that opened the door for the fascist base to encroach on the US right, the fact that those things happened doesn’t mean that the new, different thing Trump did that none of his predecessors did isn’t worse than what their predecessors were doing. The people that relied on US aid relied on US aid, independently of whatever US tanks were doing thousands of kilometers away.
Trump also reversed policy regarding Israel, incidentally, with the recognition of Jerusalem and moving the embassy. That’s the type of false equivalence that led to him being in power in the first place. Because man, I was not on board with Biden’s stance on Palestine, and I am sure Harris would have been way too lenient with Israel for my tastes, but if you think that’s the same as openly suggesting mass displacement for the sake of turning Gaza into a tourist resort and that it made no diplomatic difference in how fast and what type of ceasefire could have been attained you’re out of your mind.
And this is the last I say about it. I have zero patience for this type of willful ignorance in general, but I also have no energy to be angry. Thanks for the reminder that leaving even a tiny crack for US politics, even if it’s coming from the left, is way too much. The entire thing is toxic. Malign actor indeed.
You have no values, zero . You do not care about Palestine, you do not care about Venezuela , you do not care about Iraq you do not care about anything except defending when of the two political cults you have in your country
It takes a prodigious amount of entitlement to excuse the other American war criminals and American imperialist history before the war criminal Trump took power
The USA is complicit in those conflicts yo claim to care about and you think the aids that get blocked by the USA allies excuses the sale of weapons or diplomatic protections to those allies
I mean, never mind that the Iraq and Afghanistan wars were started by Bush
The war started by Bush but was supported by both the democrats cult and the republican cult and continued during the dems
Trump also reversed policy regarding Israel Trump did not reverse the policy regarding Israel . Like always genocide Trump are just making the usa real intention loud. The policy of the USA was always for Israel to maintain occupation and genocide Palestinians.
incidentally, with the recognition of Jerusalem and moving the embassy. That’s the type of false equivalence that led to him being in power in the first place.
The recognition of Jerusalem is not what is killing Palestinians it is the billions that the USA gives to Israel no matter if it is the democrats and republicans are in power and on the ground Israel effectively control all Gaza , all the west bank and all Jerusalem.
Because man, I was not on board with Biden’s stance on Palestine, and I am sure Harris would have been way too lenient with Israel for my tastes
What are those stupid soft words and injecting subjectivity on objective situation. You should say I condemn Biden and trump support for the genocide and I condemn Trump support for the genocide which is the position I support
If you think that’s the same as openly suggesting mass displacement for the sake of turning Gaza into a tourist resort and that it made no diplomatic difference in how fast and what type of ceasefire could have been attained you’re out of your mind
Democrats support secretly the mass displacement of Palestinians. Again there is no real major difference between democrats and republicans
During Biden 81% of all structures was affected. 90% of schools, 83% of mosques , 60-88% of health, education and water facilities. 68% of farmland damaged, 79% of it in north Gaza and 57% in Rafah . Yet you shamelessly minimize Biden complicity
Like I started you have no values, zero . You do not care about Palestine, you do not care about Venezuela , you do not care about Iraq you do not care about anything except defending when of the two political cults you have in your country
Way more than several decades. They startded in the South-East Asia more than a century ago. Latin America shortly after.
You could have had Jeb! but you got greedy.
Jeb! engineered the election manipulation scheme that got his idiot brother into the White House, where his administration’s negligence, incompetence, and corruption led to the avoidable deaths of over 10,000 American citizens, and countless foreign nationals, as well as the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression.
Jeb! belongs in prison with the rest of the traitors.
Jeb! should be in Prison!
It should’ve been me. Please clap!
Ironically the idea of an alternate 2016 where Jeb! won the election is why I’ve used variations of the Jeb! username across platforms. Not saying Jeb! is any good, but lesser of two evils and all.
Not new, not even for Europe despite popular perception.
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How about Trump & the five people who like him… THEY’RE the baddies.
I can’t help that I was born in USA 😢 I don’t want to be a baddie.
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They have always been. It’s now just impossible to ignore.
This just means that white people are starting to find out.
Not now… Always have been
The real shock to Americans will be when they discover this can’t be fixed.
Americans want to believe that relations will return to normal once the democrats are back in power. But, they don’t understand that the loss of trust in the US is permanent. Sure, if the democrats take back power and want to negotiate trade deals, other countries may sign them. They’re just not going to believe that the US can be trusted to honour the terms of those trade deals, and will structure the deals accordingly. Trump’s 2 terms show that a treaty signed by the US is meaningless, because a president like Trump can come along and just rip it up. They’ve also showed that support for someone Trump-like is close enough to 50% that it can easily happen again.
The momentum of international trade, and the vast power the US wields means that there won’t be a sudden cutting off of the US. But, bit by bit, even former staunch allies are going to start slowly pivoting away from the US whenever possible no matter who’s elected and how big a landslide it is.
Good. Obviously it was wrong to trust the US this entire time. It’s time to dismantle the post-WW2 American dominance over the world, and move toward a more multilateral future. This process feels scary and might be quite difficult, but it’s important and it’s time. No one country should be considered the world’s policeman or supreme authority. I just hope that everyone shaking their head at the US realizes that they can only sit there doing that for so long, because the very next thing they need to urgently do is step the fuck up into that leadership vacuum before dictators do.
Will it really be a multilateral future though? Or will it be a Chinese future?
A multilateral future would be great, but multilateral alliances aren’t very stable. Just look at how Orban is disrupting what the EU wants to do, even though Hungary is a relatively small and weak country in Europe. Or, look how toothless European regulations are when Ireland just refuses to enforce things like the GDPR, so the tech companies just declare themselves as Irish.
Meanwhile China seems very unified and their mixture of a command economy and a market economy has been very effective so far. I don’t think the Chinese model is all bad. They’ve been massively effective at doing things like building high speed rail, developing and deploying solar panels, etc. OTOH, the Great Firewall and CCTV state is not how I would like to live.
Without the US, I don’t know how well the rest of the world will be able to resist China. I think Australia might be the canary in the coal mine. I think China considers Australia to be in its sphere of influence and will try to put more and more pressure on it. Australia’s outlook on the world is much more similar to Europe, but it’s geographically really far away.
“Multilateral” may include a very powerful China. The two are not mutually exclusive. China has been very prolific already in exerting its soft power around the world. They probably do stand to gain from the US losing standing. However I very much doubt that the US losing standing will immediately lead to total Chinese dominance around the globe. China has a lot to deal with, surviving its impending demographic apocalypse. There was a time we feared Japan in the same way: nonstop economy, strong culture, they bought a lot of American assets and real estate… soon they’ll take over the world! They’re still here, and very powerful, but the “big bad” fears were overblown. I think similarly, China wants its historic provinces back, and would like to exert the same kind of influence over Asia that it once did, and be a global trade power, but all of that put together is still far less than the imperialism which America has actually achieved and maintained around the world. So yeah, an ascendant China may be one feature of this future but I don’t see the problem with that. I don’t start from a position of hating and fearing China.
the US losing standing will immediately lead to total Chinese dominance around the globe
The US didn’t have total dominance around the globe either. They just had a lot of soft power, a lot more than any other country.
There was a time we feared Japan in the same way
Sure, but Japan was always relatively small. It was a country with a low population and few natural resources. China is a huge country with nearly 10% of the world’s population and is one of the largest countries in the world. There are no guarantees that it will still be a major force in 10 or 20 years, but it’s different from Japan which was a relatively small country that had a temporary niche in manufacturing certain kinds of goods.
The biggest issue with China is that they don’t believe in the right to free speech and free expression. While the US has been more of an outlier in allowing unfettered free speech until recently, free speech and free expression is pretty central to European identity.
US didn’t have total dominance around the globe either. They just had a lot of soft power
The US has military bases, nuclear subs and aircraft carriers stationed around the world. That’s a little more than soft power. And our military spending has always been outsized.
Sure, but Japan was always relatively small. It was a country with a low population and few natural resources.
This stopped being the yardstick for influence around WW1. Japan has the number 4 GDP in the world right now and they were number 2 for a while, very close to the US. China’s landmass and population don’t mean much to the rest of the world if all they represent is impoverished agrarians, which fairly describes a lot of China still.
The biggest issue with China is that they don’t believe in the right to free speech and free expression.
They don’t. They believe in collectivism and order. However I don’t know that they aspire to bring Hanification to me here in California. Their ambitions are more regional. The US definitely reached around the entire globe.
While the US has been more of an outlier in allowing unfettered free speech
For whom though? This is more myth than reality. The US deposed democratically elected leaders all over South America, and has supported dictators around the world if they offer us resources or control. Look at the Middle East. China has a long long way to go before they even begin to be as scary as the US has been for the last 50 years.
free expression is pretty central to European identity.
I’m not sure what “European identity” has to do with this conversation, which has been more about the US and China. I worry that we are veering into vague concepts like “western civilization” that are more myths for white supremacists than actual entities.
Americans do not take the situation seriously. They either think they have no power to personally fix it, so contributing to any effort is pointless, or that it’s just more of the same politics as before and can’t tell the difference. They are encouraged to stay out of the way because they are the only force that seems to be capable of stopping it at this point.
Once Trump and the GOP destroy the framework of power the constitution defines, there are no rules anymore, only power, and the constitution really does mean nothing. The relationship America built with the world since WW1 will be over and won’t return as democratic nations can not remain interdependent with a fascist America. America will be another authoritarian regime using violence as the solution to every problem, including domestic problems. Those problems will only increase because an authoritarian leadership is functionally incapable of managing a non-authoritarian system. America will transition, painfully and violently, to a fascist state and the dream that was America will be dead. All at the hands of a TV show personality and the generations raised by TV, which is both sad and painfully American.
Edit: Not enough Americans…
i mean, some of us legitimately have next to no power. or have good operational security.
me, i have 3,000 miles distance between me and krasnov at any given time and putting in a lisa novak style cannonball run would be sure to tip someone or something off. I’m going to leave it to someone closer.
This is the other problem with Americans. You think the next step after words is going in guns blazing. Your media is full of it, so it’s no wonder you’re brainwashed into believing it. It’s why there are so many mass shootings. Someone disagrees with someone else and reaches for his gun.
That’s not the next step. The next steps are to organize, protest, disrupt, disobey, obstruct. You can do all that from your own city.
Just be a part of a group who are trying. That’s it. Nobody needs to action hero a solution with a fist fight finale.
I’m sorry but this article is a laugh: “But while it has fallen short in the past, there was always broad bipartisan agreement over what the U.S. should be: a reliable ally; a country that supports those less fortunate, stands up against tyranny worldwide and is a beacon of freedom for human rights defenders.”
I think it would be more accurate to say that the USAs optics have tried to pander this way. But now they are not even bothering with their PR. The USA has been wheeling and dealing even during WW2.
It’s actually in some ways refreshing in a sense that the US is embracing its role as imperial villain in many peoples stories. Shocking to people that live in America sure but to anyone that has experience with America’s foreign policy as an external entity it seems like America is finally accepting itself for who it really is and embracing its decline in a sort of reverse coming of age manner.
