• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    11 days ago

    Iran is a major trade partner and an important partner in the Ukraine War and they were both important allies of Assad and worked closely together in Syria. They have deep ties. There’s no way the price of oil is worth losing one of their key allies in the region.

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      If Iran gets their own nukes, then Russia loses a big bargaining chip.

      Honestly, that’s probably the only reason why nukes weren’t used.

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        11 days ago

        If Iran gets their own nukes, one of Russia’s most important allies in the region is safe from attack. That seems a lot more useful than a “bargaining chip”. Now, Russia risks losing an important ally and whatever bargaining chip they may have had.

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            Russia is a real country run by actual human beings. They’re not Mordor with a dark lord commanding an army of orcs. And Russia wants allies. They’re up against a vast global US-lead alliance system. Of course they want allies.

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              Would have been easy enough for them to be allies with Ukraine, but they didn’t do that, did they?

              No, they want dependents. Allies have a choice. Dependents have an illusion of choice.

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                Belarus has basically been driven out of the European economy, but that’s hardly something Russia did. If Russia has become an empire and Belarus has lost its sovereignty it’s because Europe decided to force the issue. Bad move, I guess?

                Or maybe Belarus and Russia are just allies and they’re working together like normal allies do.

                Either way, comparing this to Iran is absurd! Iran has ten times the population. Plus, China is right there. It wouldn’t work.

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                  It wouldn’t work.

                  Look at that, it’s working.

                  Plus, China is right there.

                  I think you should look at a map sometime. Unless you are taking about Russia-China relations, but that doesn’t seem to be the context here.

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                    Look at that, it’s working.

                    What’s working? Iran isn’t any more dependent on Russia than it was before the strikes.

                    I think you should look at a map sometime. Unless you are taking about Russia-China relations, but that doesn’t seem to be the context here.

                    There are just as many countries between Iran and Russia as there are between Iran and China, I don’t see why Iran would have to allow itself to be dependent on Russia when China is just as close. Granted, Russia and Iran border the Caspian Sea so they can access each others’ ports, but Iran also has ocean coast so it can access Chinese ports as well. In terms of raw numbers, Iran’s exports to China value $4.59B and imports value $10B. Trade with Russia, by comparison, is $1.9B. Total.

                    China is actually a closer economic partner with Iran than Russia is, so why wouldn’t Iran be able to turn to China?

                    Also, Iran is a founding member of the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank. Also also, Iran is an observer member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, and looks to be in the process to become a full member eventually.

                    Also also also, Taiwan condemned Iran’s strikes against Israel, so you know they’re tight with China lol