I understand that some of the criticism comes from conservatives but the sentiment seems to extend far beyond thst. Of course, I understand it when it’s forced or when someone only does it to survive against their will. But if people genuinely want to do it, why do people hate on them?
Personal view from someone who considers themselves pretty liberal: I don’t get why people spend money on it.
I have no issue at all with anything someone does to make money, provided it doesn’t hurt anyone else. Good for them, wish I was attractive enough to do it. I’d have absolutely no issue with my wife or sister or friend earning money this way.
What I do object to, is low effort. Not just OF/porn, but influencers and streamers more widely. Fake noises, grotesque leering, begging for money - none of it is real, and it doesn’t interest me in the slightest. It doesn’t appeal to me as a consumer, and I don’t understand at all that it does for anyone. Obviously it does work and people do pay money to watch it but I’m genuinely bewildered why. If you want porn, it’s everywhere for free. If anyone reading is a viewer, please do try to educate me on what you get out of it!
(Also, I do know there are people who genuinely enjoy performing and put a lot of effort into producing quality, it’s not all shite)
True story; I used to employ a chap doing building work. He was straight, married (but open, he slept with several of our female staff), good looking and very fit - and one day he handed me his notice. He said he’d been doing OF and gay porn at the weekends and he was making ten times the money in half a day doing that than he was working five days for me. Good for him, he was able to afford a lifestyle he couldn’t otherwise.
Porn & SW make much more sense to me than streamers and influencers.
american puratism has infected the world.
Apologies if i’m wrong, isn’t it puritanism
This is probably a hot take, but it’s because society has this weird aversion to sex even though it’s necessary for us to continue existing. This aversion extends to sex work in general and is also the reason why the field has so many problems.
I’m no prude, but I also don’t think a lot of porn actors really want to be doing what they are doing. There is a lot of manipulation, drugging, exploitation, and straight up criminal activity that a large porn industry begets. But if you regulate it, if you protect sex workers, if you disallow access for younger people (I’m not for age verification, I’m saying parent/guardian intervention), if you allow the actors to have agency and full authority over their own work, then cool. I think there needs to be a lot more study and subsequent awareness what early access to pornography does to a young mind. I truly believe that porn is responsible for the increase in vociferous misogyny we are seeing with young men, enabled by the manosphere, which is just chock-full of sex predators and straight up pedophiles. To start to even have these discussions though, the taboo around sex needs to be widely removed.
I’ve always been curious about the effects on minors as well, especially with a country like Japan where sex is much more widely accepted and pornography is just out on display in some stores. From what I’ve heard, Japan has always had the mentality that porn would be either unappealing to minors or, specifically for games, would be to difficult for them to actually play because they’d have trouble reading the text. I know that Japan has done studies on other porn related topics, so maybe they have in the past and were able to come to this conclusion.
One modern issue is that sites like OnlyFans has caused is a unique type of spam as various models spam in a lot of places in order to build their audience.
my issue…
they are just ads with tits. (yes, I’m being blunt). they come into social settings and post images or whatever, and it’s just yo… you with the penis. give me money because I have tits.
overall, I have no issue with the site. but FFS … STAY ON THAT SITE. don’t come here and advertise your ass cheese. its annoying and the majority dgaf.
this applies to onlyfans because pornstars… well they don’t do that shit. they keep their crap to normal ads (which still suck) and their sites. I have respect for pornstars, I have no respect for onlyfans ‘gimmie money’ clowns
Apparently one of the reasons for advertising off-site is because OF does not have an on-site discovery mechanism. So there really aren’t other options. Not the fault of the performers.
Huh. I would have guessed that they would try to get consumers to subscribe to as many providers as possible and constantly suggest new ones (social media style)
Ass cheese? Link?
It’s funny that people here are boiling down prostitution (which is what porn is) to “just sex”, that probably says something about social conditions! It’s the natural progression of western feminism that demonizes minority men (particularly Palestinians I might add) & casts slavery as empowerment. Onlyfans top percentile performers are essentially madams due to their relationship to the global system of extraction that subsidizes them. Like the majority of porn, Onlyfans makes most of its money off the same thing Xitter does now—desperate people in third world countries.
People frame “soft” prostitution as voluntary, but if you’re performing sex acts or doing things which make you uncomfortable that you wouldn’t have done without money, that’s coercion. You are being sexually assaulted. In fact, that is the main draw of “live” porn platforms, being able to coerce women directly into doing things which make them increasingly uncomfortable.
You should be mindful of the platform’s position in the surveillance + tech bubble as well. Has nobody mentioned it’s an Israeli company? That seems to elicit the disgust that anything Silicon Valley-related ought to, since 2023 anyways
Reducing people to objects is generally bad.
Only fans also promote sexualization of girls/teens.
It’s well established in social research that the patriarchy uses sexual objectification of women to help keep them reduced as second class citizens.
It helps promote the idea that “women want to be sexually assaulted and they like sexual harassment”.
Taking blame from the predators.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectification
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-objectification
Additionally. Turning intimacy and affection into something to be sold or bought devalues this aspect of human connection.
https://www.thorn.org/research/library/commodified-online-sexual-interactions/
Consent and Commodification: Objections to the Market for Sex Work https://pressbooks.lib.vt.edu/pper/chapter/article-4/
I personally think sex work should be decriminalized for the prostitute but not the johns.
Sex work is not something people do because its a choice but out of need for finances.
Meaning it’s a form of coercion and exploitation.
You could argue most work/labor is that. It is. I won’t say its not.
But sex work perpetuates harm more (physical, mental and promotes misogyny in our society) and specifically harms women the most. Though it harms anyone working in that industry.
Sex work is not something people do because its a choice but out of need for finances.
This may be true in many or most cases but I’ve met sex workers who like their job and want to keep doing it because it’s an easy and fun way to make a lot of money.
Easy money. So finances?
Self objectification is also a problem in our society.
Do you remember how women athletes used to say all the time how it was empowering to be naked in the swimsuit sports illustrated magazine.
?Our culture has convinced women that their greatest value is being sexy and getting sexual attention and unfortunately a lot of younger women believe this.
They don’t realize that this mindset and acceptance of these values promote the very system that harms them and others.
Easier money than doing other work. They could make ends meet other ways, I’m sure, but this is easier and more fun.
Like, I could make ends meet as a roofer but making more money for sitting in front of a computer is easier and more fun.
As for the other stuff, all I can say is that they weren’t all women.
I think you are really downplaying the risks here. I have friends who have done sex work. It’s incredibly dangerous. Men may hurt you. They may stalk you. They may give you a std.
Sometimes the woman agrees to a specific service and the man forces her to do something she said she didn’t want to do.It’s not like they can go to the police.
Police will just say “well that’s what you get for being a whore”.
Trans women in sex work have even higher rates of violence and murder.
Men (usually young) are also subjected to the same risks as women.
Also just because it’s easy doesn’t mean it’s the best long term option
I mean most of the problems in this world are caused by people wanting things the easy way even if it makes things harder later.
Do sex work in your 20s instead of developing a career. Then when you are too old and 40 with no job prospects and no skills, and no one wants you. What then ?
Which is why every one of them supported making sex work legal so they have those protections.
For real
Sex is still seen as a Taboo. It’s 2026 guys, come on!
You say that, but outside of Europe, I’m fairly sure much of society is getting less permissive since the 60s.
It can only get worse!
My opinion is that, if you ignore the judeo-christian prudishness, it comes down to two things.
First, some jealousy. It looks like easy money, and they’re having sex (in the case of porn actors), so there’s this almost subconscious anger that someone else found a trick to “get rich”. Thing is with that, the only people getting rich in porn were/are the producers. Only fans shifted that a little, but the company takes a cut like any asshole pimp would. I’ve actually heard people irl express things that lead me to believe this is a common factor.
Second is the fact that a large swath of people, even though otherwise open minded and unconcerned about sex issues, still think that the only reason one would sell their sexuality is because they can’t do better. It’s the whole thing where humans like to piss downhill. Anyone doing something that a person considers “below” them is gong to be seen as inherently flawed. That doesn’t apply only to porn, btw.
Hell, I fall prey to the trope that anyone doing porn must have some kind of trauma, if I don’t pay attention to myself. It is true that porn as it exists in this world is marginalized, and heavily staffed by sufferers of trauma. It actually is one of those jobs where people that have serious mental health problems and/or drug dependency get drawn to because it’s relatively easy to find and keep income compared to other jobs when you have those issues.
Since porn is marginalized, there is a significant portion of the on screen workers that don’t have many other options. It’s super easy for someone young, undereducated, and desperate to end up being paid to show their body or fuck. Since someone in that situation is going to get paid less doing anything else they could find, the industry is heavily weighted towards that population (partially because of the ease of finding desperate people, and mostly because the desperate are easier to exploit and abuse).
Only fans runs closer to neutral since it is based in individuals. So while abuse occurs, and there’s a lot wrong with the company, the real abuse only happens when an outside person is forcing a model or models to perform. Not that porn is free of trafficking and forced labor, but it’s less useful to do that for porn when there’s easier ways to exploit someone there.
That’s my take anyway. It’s based on casual conversations with people that object to porn in its various guises, and the rest from casual exposure to interviews and conversations with adult performers
It’s a good question. I honestly don’t have an answer. If a person wakes up one day and says hey, that’s what I want to do. Who are we to judge it?
What happens is they wake up. Broke. And think. I have no other options. Or someone else talks them into it. People don’t usually get into sex work because they enjoy it.
There are some high libido people who do. But they are the exception not the norm.
Usually it is who they consider their boyfriend who talks them into performing on OF. It is actually their virtual pimp.
Yeah quite a lot are married too. Kinda messed up.
Not morally acceptable, is disgusting. The fact that people show off their body to thousands of people and wanna make money off it is not morally acceptable.
What if it’s just for fun and not for money? Is that morally okay? Or is it just nudity is icky?
I’m not seeing the amorality. It’s not like they’re hurting anyone.
They’re not harming anyone physically. But they are mentally for sure. Many of the young generation are falling to porn and getting addicted to it, and many even get addicted to the point that their taste grows more extreme and at one point, they start enjoying gore stuff. There are just so many more harmful sides to porn
First of all, I’d love to see some sources for your claims, 'cause that’s a whole cartfull of slippery slope bullshit.
Second of all, so? That’s the person’s own choice, and they aren’t hurting anyone.
So…shut down the fashion industry and Hollywood?
Those are at least better than porn and OnlyFans
All jobs require someone to use their body in order for them to make money, I would much rather show my body for money than to do physical labor for money.
Meanwhile, I would rather do physical labour than show my private parts and let people use me as they please. Because I have dignity and self-respect.
Guess we gotta ban all those workout tapes and virtual gyms too?
It must be a you problem
