Ah then, no, they consider themselves Chinese. That’s the entire point. Specifically they are both Zhōnghuá and exceedingly few people contest that (hence the referendum trying to rename them from Chinese Taipei failing MISERABLY).
Some polls, especially from CIA-Backed NED Organizations show ridiculous support, but actual democracy in Chinese Taipei shows little to no support for a ‘Taiwan’ identity. Especially given THEY LITERALLY MASSACRED THE TAIWANESE PEOPLE AND STOLE THEIR LAND.
I don’t know what you are getting at, of the people who come over from China and Taiwan that I talk to, no one believes that the two are one “nation” with different opinions on who is the authority. They may believe there’s not a distinct cultural identity but none think the “no, there’s only one China and onlywe are the real China” is a thing in practice, just a political formality.
The ones from China do say they wouldn’t push their luck expressing that publicly, and one went so far as to borrow a computer to log into without any association with them because they were paranoid about using their laptop issued to them with the Chinese employer preload. He wanted to read some Wikipedia the way an American sees it while he was over on business.
Tangentially, another one from China was super excited to try to get someone to get him a gun to shoot. We did manage to hook him up with a gun range.
Lol, what are you even talking about? Since 20 years the opinion polls are clear: The majority of the people living in Taiwan consider themselves Taiwanese. There is a somewhat large minority that considers themselves both Taiwanese and Chinese, but when asked to choose between the two the people of Taiwan overwhelmingly (like 90%) prefer to call themselves Taiwanese.
Edit: but it looks like I am replying to a fresh Tankie sockpuppet account, so I guess no need to bother 🤦
They’re just referring to the martial law and white terror period that existed on the island for almost 4 decades. But it’s been almost as long since than it lasted.
It’s a pretty important period for Taiwan, but interestingly enough this shows that the people of Taiwan today are less inclined to maintain that stance despite that history.
However I wager that’s likely due to a rejection of association with the PRC than an identification with being Taiwanese alone.
They aren’t neighbors anymore than Hawaii is a neighbor to the US. If the British were fought back all the way to Hawaii, and only had Hawaii left and declared the entire American continent British territory, it would be ridiculous to say invading Hawaii is imperialism.
It is fighting back against the imperialists who decided to flee to an island, where again THEY GENOCIDED THE LOCAL POPULATION BEFORE AND DURING THEIR OCCUPATION.
‘Taiwan’ and the ‘ROC’ are the bad guys, they invaded China, Failed in their take over so badly they inspired a popular peasant revolution, and got beat back to an island shortly before obtaining a defensive treaty from another nation known for imperialism and genocide.
I am referring to the opinion of the current inhabitants of Taiwan as expressed in opinion polls.
Ah then, no, they consider themselves Chinese. That’s the entire point. Specifically they are both Zhōnghuá and exceedingly few people contest that (hence the referendum trying to rename them from Chinese Taipei failing MISERABLY).
Some polls, especially from CIA-Backed NED Organizations show ridiculous support, but actual democracy in Chinese Taipei shows little to no support for a ‘Taiwan’ identity. Especially given THEY LITERALLY MASSACRED THE TAIWANESE PEOPLE AND STOLE THEIR LAND.
I don’t know what you are getting at, of the people who come over from China and Taiwan that I talk to, no one believes that the two are one “nation” with different opinions on who is the authority. They may believe there’s not a distinct cultural identity but none think the “no, there’s only one China and onlywe are the real China” is a thing in practice, just a political formality.
The ones from China do say they wouldn’t push their luck expressing that publicly, and one went so far as to borrow a computer to log into without any association with them because they were paranoid about using their laptop issued to them with the Chinese employer preload. He wanted to read some Wikipedia the way an American sees it while he was over on business.
Tangentially, another one from China was super excited to try to get someone to get him a gun to shoot. We did manage to hook him up with a gun range.
Lol, what are you even talking about? Since 20 years the opinion polls are clear: The majority of the people living in Taiwan consider themselves Taiwanese. There is a somewhat large minority that considers themselves both Taiwanese and Chinese, but when asked to choose between the two the people of Taiwan overwhelmingly (like 90%) prefer to call themselves Taiwanese.
Edit: but it looks like I am replying to a fresh Tankie sockpuppet account, so I guess no need to bother 🤦
They’re just referring to the martial law and white terror period that existed on the island for almost 4 decades. But it’s been almost as long since than it lasted.
It’s a pretty important period for Taiwan, but interestingly enough this shows that the people of Taiwan today are less inclined to maintain that stance despite that history.
However I wager that’s likely due to a rejection of association with the PRC than an identification with being Taiwanese alone.
The 2018 referendum disagrees with your mysteriously sourced polls
People can have one opinion and still prefer to vote against it given the likely consequence of the imperialist neighbor attacking them 🤷
There really isn’t a definition of Imperialism that fits China. It does explicitly fit Taiwan, given ROC’s history.
Threatening to attack and occupy their self-ruled neighbors is pretty much the textbook definition of imperialist 🤦
They aren’t neighbors anymore than Hawaii is a neighbor to the US. If the British were fought back all the way to Hawaii, and only had Hawaii left and declared the entire American continent British territory, it would be ridiculous to say invading Hawaii is imperialism.
It is fighting back against the imperialists who decided to flee to an island, where again THEY GENOCIDED THE LOCAL POPULATION BEFORE AND DURING THEIR OCCUPATION.
‘Taiwan’ and the ‘ROC’ are the bad guys, they invaded China, Failed in their take over so badly they inspired a popular peasant revolution, and got beat back to an island shortly before obtaining a defensive treaty from another nation known for imperialism and genocide.
Learn history, kiddo. Stop listening to the CIA.
Hey kiddo, stop listening to PRC propaganda 🤦