MJ calls what happened to her in Zion national park “small ‘T’ trauma”. She knows women have experienced worse from their partners. But she still feels the anger of being left behind on a hike by her now ex. “It brings up stuff in my body that maybe I have not cleared out yet,” she said.
Five years ago, MJ and a new partner – he was not exactly her boyfriend, and the pair were not exclusive – traveled from Los Angeles to Utah for an adventure getaway. MJ, who is 38 and works in PR, was looking forward to exploring Zion’s striking scenery; its vast sandstone canyon and pristine wading trails were on the list. But on the morning of their big hike, MJ was not feeling well. She could not shake the feeling that something was “off”; indeed, MJ would learn on this trip that her partner was seeing other women.
As they made their way up Angel’s Landing, MJ’s partner started walking faster than her. “I could tell it was getting on his nerves that I was slow,” she said. “I was like, ‘Fuck it, just go ahead of me.’” He did without hesitation.
When she caught up at the top of the mountain, they took a picture together. Then her partner hiked down the mountain with a woman he had met on the way up, leaving MJ to finish by herself. They broke up shortly after that trip. (MJ asked to be referred to by her initials for the sake of speaking openly about a past relationship.)
Last month, MJ opened TikTok and heard the phrase “alpine divorce”, a label she now attaches to her experience in Zion.
I can’t stress enough how much I don’t give a shit about potentially being unfair to men who think it’s a moral injustice to point out that liberals are still misogynistic even if they think orange man bad. Maybe you should look deep down and get lost up your own ass.
They really get upset when women tell them we don’t care.
Spend all this time shouting down at us and telling us we’re stupid for choosing the wrong men? Ok, we won’t choose any of you fuckers.
You are being unfair to men who do not fit that description, because you are making a generalization about all men. I don’t understand why you would choose to be hostile rather than understand your actions.
Yes, you don’t understand and yet presume you know better. That’s the problem.
Then explain yourself.
Why? Men don’t listen to women as it is and it’s not our job to educate you.
This is ridiculous. Please review the thread; this is not a matter of education. I am giving orioler the chance to explain themselves after directly insulting me by telling me to “get lost up my own ass” because I believe everyone should have the opportunity to explain themself. If they are angry, they may have a point even if they choose to express it in an unacceptable way. If they do not want to take the opportunity, that is their choice.
Giving me a chance, jfc dude how gracious of you. Howbout you go to a therapist and explain why you’re like this?
No therapist can defeat me
Well I guess it’s “not my job to educate you”, is it?
I think you misunderstanding the joke, making light of the reality that you’re clearly in need of some introspection, and then trying to throw back a comment someone else made at me which only applies given that misunderstanding just bowties this whole thing with you. You’re supposed to try to explain it to yourself through therapy bud; I already know why men are like you and do not need it explained.
Orioler’s parent comment is that they’re happy they’re not attracted to men and you got personally offended by that.
You can absolutely get lost up your own ass for making their personal relief at not being attracted to men a personal slight against all men.
Your reading of their comment is valid but seems pretty inaccurate from my point of view. Their parent comment is primarily about the nature of men:
And they also noted that this affects their attraction. I truly do not care who they are attracted to, so I was responding only to the generalized attack on mens’ character.
It’s about the nature of men on Lemmy, not men in general.