cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/42475417

There it is folks.

Remember that name: Chabad-Lubavitch

declassified FBI memo from the Epstein files, released on Friday, includes incendiary allegations about US President Donald Trump.

The memo says that Trump was “compromised by Israel”, that convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epsteinworked with Israeli intelligence, and that a Jewish religious group calling itself Chabad-Lubavitch sought to hijack his first term in office.

The memo, written in 2020, formed part of an FBI investigation into domestic or foreign influence over the US electoral process. It draws on information from a confidential human source (CHS) and appears among a vast trove of Epstein-related files released by the US Justice Department.

“CHS advised Chabad is doing everything they can to co-opt the Trump presidency,” the memo states regarding his first term.

Chabad-Lubavitch, a religious Jewish sect founded in Russia, has grown to an estimated 90,000 members. Its messianic, ultra-Orthodox ideology has repeatedly been linked to hardline settler colonial politics in Palestine.

  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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    18 hours ago

    So, good job to those of you who voted for trump because Kamala was pro-Isreal.

    You voted for the guy who’s even MORE pro-Isreal, AND now we’re getting murdered in the streets.

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      6 hours ago

      Why don’t democrats nominate candidates that actually care about the working class instead of lesser evil establishment puppets?

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      6 hours ago

      The previous administration who kamala harris was the vice president of allowed and helped israel fascist government to perpetrate a genocide where thousand kids got murdered are still getting murdered to this day

      https://lemmy.ml/post/42477224

      https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-military-reported-accept-death-toll-around-70000-gaza-2026-01-30/

      Israel military recently confirmed the death tool since 2023 at 70.000 casualties.

      I doubt many people here on lemmy voted for trump, these who didn’t vote red or blue probably voted for third parties or did something more useful than voting to try to stop the genocide.

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      13 hours ago

      We’ve always told you they are both the same, both shit. Just one is a lot worse. Harm reduction is the name of the game.

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        7 hours ago

        Which ignores that these democrats were nevrer going to keep the fascists out. They are controlled opposition and everyone that doesn’t have shit for brains knows it.

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        6 hours ago

        Harm reduction is taking the street and preventing these fascists to do any further damage, not voting the lesser evil villain between two corrupted parties until shit inevitably gets worst.

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        6 hours ago

        A slow loss is still a loss.

        Only stupid people convince themselves that it’s somehow a win.

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        8 hours ago

        Good concept but not everyone is smart enough to see it. And stupid people outnumber smart people by the masses.

    • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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      Say the line, Bart! OOPS, I initially misread your post, I thought you were yelling at people who voted for neither Harris nor Trump as a principled anti-Israel position, not people who voted for Trump for supposedly being the lesser pro-Israel candidate. Obviously I didn’t vote for Trump, and obviously fuck Trump and his supporters and voters.

      Gonna leave the quote tho because it’s always One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This-o-clock.


      But the moral prohibition on siding with any administration that endorses genocide will force a different flavor of the exact same logic that centrist liberalism has depended on for so long: hold your nose and align with the least worst thing. Only the least worst thing will no longer be the mild, ethics-agnostic emptiness of modern Western liberalism, nor will it be the multitude of barbaric authoritarians and their secret prisons. It will be communal solidarity, or else nothing, a walking away from all of this. Countless otherwise pragmatic people who would in any other circumstance choose liberalism by default will instead decide none of this is worth the damage to one’s soul. They will instead support no one, vote for no one, wash their hands of any ordering of the world that results in choices no better than this. And the obvious centrist refrain—But do you want the deranged right wing to win?—should, after even a moment of self-reflection, yield to a far more important question: How empty does your message have to be for a deranged right wing to even have a chance of winning? Of all the epitaphs that may one day be written on the gravestone of Western liberalism, the most damning is this: Faced off against a nihilistic, endlessly cruel manifestation of conservatism, and somehow managed to make it close.

      — Omar El-Akkad, One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This, correction mine.

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        So it’s actually less damning for the soul to vote neither… because you have no choice in the matter to begin with. It’s a bullshit facade. Contribute to lesser evil or more evil. How about don’t contribute and just let them roll over you because ultimately it mean death anyways but at least this way it’s better for your soul because you didn’t partake in any evil. Sort of like “the road to hell is paved with good intentions” but since we’re all going to hell anyways at least you didn’t pave the road there.

        • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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          How about don’t contribute and just let them roll over you

          I am not saying to just let them roll over us. Do anything else. Voting is a form of letting them roll over us, it’s just the version of getting rolled that lets you feel better than everyone else and serves as a pressure valve for righteous proletarian fury.

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            Hey buddy I’m agreeing with you 100% I’m not saying you have a choice but to LET them roll over you. It’s a non choice. It’s gonna happen. So this way you still have some dignity. “You’re not firing me, I’m quitting.”

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        9 hours ago

        I mean, the protest non-voters are also fucking morons. But yes, Trump voters especially.

        • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.org
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          9 hours ago

          I mean, the protest non-voters are also fucking morons.

          Ah yes, thank you for giving me a second chance to correctly apply this quote:

          But the moral prohibition on siding with any administration that endorses genocide will force a different flavor of the exact same logic that centrist liberalism has depended on for so long: hold your nose and align with the least worst thing. Only the least worst thing will no longer be the mild, ethics-agnostic emptiness of modern Western liberalism, nor will it be the multitude of barbaric authoritarians and their secret prisons. It will be communal solidarity, or else nothing, a walking away from all of this. Countless otherwise pragmatic people who would in any other circumstance choose liberalism by default will instead decide none of this is worth the damage to one’s soul. They will instead support no one, vote for no one, wash their hands of any ordering of the world that results in choices no better than this. And the obvious centrist refrain—But do you want the deranged right wing to win?—should, after even a moment of self-reflection, yield to a far more important question: How empty does your message have to be for a deranged right wing to even have a chance of winning? Of all the epitaphs that may one day be written on the gravestone of Western liberalism, the most damning is this: Faced off against a nihilistic, endlessly cruel manifestation of conservatism, and somehow managed to make it close.

          — Omar El-Akkad, One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This, correction mine.

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        So you say fuck trump and then let him win because both candidates are pro israel?

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          That’s how they get you. “Oh atleast I’m picking the lesser evil.” Thats like going to hell but with extra steps. So you can feel self righteous while going there.

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          Buddy I’m just some dude with zero power and zero ability to individually change the trajectory of this fascist country. I didn’t let these fuckers do shit. The capitalist class is fully culpable for their own crimes.

          And also what part of "…moral prohibition on siding with

          ANY

          administration that endorses

          GENOCIDE

          …" is unclear to you?

          Like one simply cannot do a genocide and ever expect literally any goodwill from me ever again, certainly not a vote, but I wouldn’t even piss on these fucks if they were on fire. And I’m not even the teeniest tiniest bit sorry if “I unconditionally refuse to support genocidaires” is a controversial opinion to you, and I literally never will be. Fuck Trump, fuck Harris, fuck Biden, fuck Obama, fuck Bush, fuck Clinton, and fuck every other president, and fuck the whole the goddamn AmeriKKKa settler project for the rest of fucking time.

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            So you are ok with whatever ice is doing? Cause you were gonna get genocide no matter what, now you got ice on top of it.

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              Of course I’m not okay with what ICE is doing! Biden and Obama were doing ICE too, and Harris would have done it just as hard as Trump, just in “norm-preserving” ways, as did Biden and Obama and Bush as long as ICE existed. And if Harris was elected, vote-Blue-no-matter-who liberals wouldn’t fucking care because they don’t want to abolish ICE.

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            Don’t let them divide us. Treat each other with kindness—that’s how we resist. Throughout history, they have thrived by pitting people against each other. They enslaved populations, displaced indigenous peoples, and extracted wealth for centuries. Be it zionist USSR, be it colonial Britain, all of them built wealth paid with blood by the people.

            The founding of Israel shows how this pattern continued after WWII. David Ben-Gurion declared independence as the British Mandate ended, following the UN’s partition plan. It immediately sparked the 1948 Arab-Israeli War and displaced hundreds of thousands of Palestinians.

            Those in power benefit when we’re divided by ethnicity, religion, or nationality. When we fight each other, we’re easier to control. Our unity is their greatest threat. Stand together, reject division. In the end, they will be hunted down and held accountable, although the atrocities they committed will never be paid for at its fullest.

            The world ruling elites are the same club that has been ruling over nations for many, many, many years.

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              I want the thickest possible wall between me and the genocide supporters. Like of course, within the resistance I want to unite and not be divisive, but if we allow genocide supporters into the movement then it ain’t worth shit.

              No kindness for monsters, and we need to be firm with pulling people away from falling in line with the monsters.

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                The problem is that too many people aren’t paying attention or lack the awareness to see what’s happening. Power gets placed in the hands of those who are easily manipulated—precisely so the masses will fight each other while thinking they’re doing good. Our only real solution is unity. We can’t push people away just because they have different opinions. Some are blinded by misinformation, some are lost in their own bubbles, some can’t accept the truth because of ego, and yes—some do have bad intentions. But most don’t. We need to distinguish between those who are misled and those who are deliberately causing harm. Rejecting everyone who disagrees only strengthens the division that benefits those in power. Meet people where they are, challenge ideas with patience, and build bridges wherever possible. Division is their strategy. Unity is ours.

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      There never were that many of those people. Kamala lost this one entirely on her own, with a lackluster platform and campaign. Not having an open primary of course didn’t help, either. Democrats suck right now, I’m sorry to say. Of course that’s going to depress turnout.

      And don’t point fingers at me, I did what I could. But you should know shaming people into voting for your party has never ever worked.