• dogbert@lemmy.zip
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    NATO ain’t gonna do shit lmao. It was always a fake-ass fantasy designed to stop communism. That’s it.

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      Someone should tell Putin that NATO is fake so he can stop feeding people into the Ukrainian meat grinder.

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          A) Ukraine is not part of NATO.

          B) NATO countries are providing Ukraine with tons of military hardware, without which it is arguable whether Ukraine would have survived this long.

          C) The point is that Putin is using NATO as an excuse to go after Ukraine, since NATO is “threatening Russia” and Ukraine joining NATO would put a threatening force on Russia’s doorstep.

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            It’s not really an excuse, Ukraine joining NATO would be terrible for Russia. They’re doing what they gotta do for themselves. You’d know a thing or two about that as an American right?

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              Wait, you just said NATO was fake-ass and would do nothing. Why would Ukraine joining NATO be terrible for Russia if NATO is so fake-ass and worthless?

              Also, just because I’m an American doesn’t mean I believe in the things my government does. Trying to leave NATO and attacking random countries, like Trump is doing now, is not something I think is right.

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                  They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

                  Excerpt from Sartre.

                  Originally about anti-semites, fits fascists too. For some reason I thought about this when reading your comment chain.

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            11 hours ago

            I mean, Russia is pretty clearly winning this war, not that I care either way.