Why are you missing basic comprehension skills?

Begging for sympathy? More like making sure you and this website does not get flagged as an extremist place with no moderation, seeing the same fate as multiple chans and freedom boards. Me wanting others to stop acting like extremists does not equal me defending IDF. You being a piece of shit towards the group whose opinion you want to change ruins your own chances of swaying said people’s opinions.

Military does not drop flyers saying “death to you”, they drop flyers saying “stop serving the army and we will help you”.

Still not getting my point? Damn I’m too European for this platform

I don’t understand why you keep asking me that question and I keep having to answer yes for you to stop going offtopic

You can’t just ignore the genocide because it makes your point weak.

What? You literally make no sense, because my point was about genocide. You calling for genocide against a group doing the genocide when said group is also full of people who were forced into IDF and constantly help the media and world see what’s truly going on does not make you the morally highest creature.

Americans don’t scream “Death to police”, they scream “Defund the police”. Your choice of words would make you a fine addition to ranking officers of IDF, you get my point?

It’s genuinely not that easy and ruins your future chances of having a good life. Just the fact alone that the jail time is looped as long as you refuse to serve IDF, ending your jail time with another draft is… dark.

I’m not talking about that. I’m talking about generalization. Not all black people are thieves, you know? Plenty of people from IDF have spoken up and plenty of jewish people have been protesting against everything that’s happening. My point was simply that calling for mass execution of a group of people makes you morally questionable too.

EDIT: To better express my point - I’m East European who with boiling blood hate levels against Russia. I have never said “Death to russians”. I do say “Support Ukraine”. See the difference? Honestly, would not surprise me if half of lemmy does not.

Your extremism approach to the problem aside - note that IDF is mandatory to everyone who reaches 18 with some exceptions, which means the same people who report Israeli atrocities to the media and never wanted to be part of this, is now in your call for death.

Since IDF is mandatory to nearly every Israeli citizen, that also means you’re essentially calling for genocide while saying genocide is bad. Do you feel morally conflicted, or are you like the people you hate?

It’s an endless loop if you think about it

The jews died when jews settled in jewish lands?

Not exactly. West didn’t care too much about other non-western countries having nukes. Two nations who have nukes borderline almost started a war in Asia (Pakistan and India). Iran is a special case, just like North Korea is. Unlike others, the two I mentioned have essentially declared themselves as the enemies of the west, so naturally west wants to keep them away from such destructive weapons

EDIT: Third one would be Russia, but there was already conflicts and a long standoff. The Russia has made it clear they can invade everyone but no one can invade them. Coincidentally, same could be said for USA.

Just my two cents, from some philosophing east european slav here.

What’s with these weird imaginary articles? The media has talked enough about their nukes, western youtube is filled with documentaries and western wiki has detailed info on vela incident and other related information, not even talking about the fact that I, a westerner, learned about Israel’s nukes from western media. Idiocy.

As an example: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/15/truth-israels-secret-nuclear-arsenal

Because someone didn’t wear a gender discriminatory dress that the president enforces upon it’s population? Dude, get reality checked. Trump is a piece of shit, but he’s pretty far from such extreme levels of evilness. When I’ll see news like “Trump administration executes Harvard students for protesting”, then I’ll re-consider my views

I’m not sure what did you mean by this. Violently attacking police officers usually results in the same thing anyways. Read the first lines from that article, he’s not talking about normal protesters and neither was that government official. Very poorly worded and stupidly timed.

You are out of touch if you think Trump is worse than Khamenei

EDIT: Lemmy, wake me up when Trump orders to kill the protestets, because by every passing day most of you look more and more delusional to me, lost in your own hate. Feels weird defending trump, but there is a day and night difference between the two. See what Iranians themselves are saying.

Fully agree. I’m just in this state of “what’s the point, laws no longer work, conventions no longer work, UN is useless, etc.”. At this point the only hope here is if the governments around the world en mass seriously starts getting involved, but even that is mostly word exchanges.

International law regards military blockade as an act of war.

They are at war. Rest is pretty much useless as in real life these agreements and conventions only work when the stronger party enforces it, which isn’t happening here. What is written on some paper and how real life works are two very different things.

I should mention again that I’m not trying to defend Israel, just telling you the brutal truth that things written in geneva convention do not work in real life if the stronger party refuses to play by it, just like UN is often meaningless if US has veto power and does what it want, or ICC that can’t do anything meaningful because states have threatened to take forceful action against them if they attempt to actually arrest someone from said country. We of course love yelling these things at countries doing shitty things, makes us feel better and puts us on the morally correct side, especially against Russia with thousands of war crimes, but what does that change if there is no one that can enforce said laws? You wanna go to russia and arrest Putin? Didn’t think so. Empty words. Evil does not care about your signature.

What the hell are you claiming? Greta is not in forced labor. Military blockade is a real thing, she tries to breach it, and was apprehended and deported. End of the very predictable story that went perfectly according to the plan.

Four of the group, including Thunberg, agreed to immediate deportation, while the eight others contested the repatriation order. They have been detained near Tel Aviv airport awaiting a court hearing on their legal status.

You’re missing one major difference. US doesn’t enforce blockade over Canada

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip_(2023–present)

How morally wrong this is, is whole another discussion, just pointing out why this was never going to happen and went according to the plan.

Seizing/intercepting for deportation. Not trying to defend Israel, but it was pretty clear from the start that this was their mission, and it went perfectly according to the plan, and now media can have a field day.

EDIT: Apparently they didn’t even bother loading the boat full with aid