It’s an endless loop if you think about it

The jews died when jews settled in jewish lands?

Not exactly. West didn’t care too much about other non-western countries having nukes. Two nations who have nukes borderline almost started a war in Asia (Pakistan and India). Iran is a special case, just like North Korea is. Unlike others, the two I mentioned have essentially declared themselves as the enemies of the west, so naturally west wants to keep them away from such destructive weapons

EDIT: Third one would be Russia, but there was already conflicts and a long standoff. The Russia has made it clear they can invade everyone but no one can invade them. Coincidentally, same could be said for USA.

Just my two cents, from some philosophing east european slav here.

What’s with these weird imaginary articles? The media has talked enough about their nukes, western youtube is filled with documentaries and western wiki has detailed info on vela incident and other related information, not even talking about the fact that I, a westerner, learned about Israel’s nukes from western media. Idiocy.

As an example: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/15/truth-israels-secret-nuclear-arsenal

Because someone didn’t wear a gender discriminatory dress that the president enforces upon it’s population? Dude, get reality checked. Trump is a piece of shit, but he’s pretty far from such extreme levels of evilness. When I’ll see news like “Trump administration executes Harvard students for protesting”, then I’ll re-consider my views

I’m not sure what did you mean by this. Violently attacking police officers usually results in the same thing anyways. Read the first lines from that article, he’s not talking about normal protesters and neither was that government official. Very poorly worded and stupidly timed.

You are out of touch if you think Trump is worse than Khamenei

EDIT: Lemmy, wake me up when Trump orders to kill the protestets, because by every passing day most of you look more and more delusional to me, lost in your own hate. Feels weird defending trump, but there is a day and night difference between the two. See what Iranians themselves are saying.

Fully agree. I’m just in this state of “what’s the point, laws no longer work, conventions no longer work, UN is useless, etc.”. At this point the only hope here is if the governments around the world en mass seriously starts getting involved, but even that is mostly word exchanges.

International law regards military blockade as an act of war.

They are at war. Rest is pretty much useless as in real life these agreements and conventions only work when the stronger party enforces it, which isn’t happening here. What is written on some paper and how real life works are two very different things.

I should mention again that I’m not trying to defend Israel, just telling you the brutal truth that things written in geneva convention do not work in real life if the stronger party refuses to play by it, just like UN is often meaningless if US has veto power and does what it want, or ICC that can’t do anything meaningful because states have threatened to take forceful action against them if they attempt to actually arrest someone from said country. We of course love yelling these things at countries doing shitty things, makes us feel better and puts us on the morally correct side, especially against Russia with thousands of war crimes, but what does that change if there is no one that can enforce said laws? You wanna go to russia and arrest Putin? Didn’t think so. Empty words. Evil does not care about your signature.

What the hell are you claiming? Greta is not in forced labor. Military blockade is a real thing, she tries to breach it, and was apprehended and deported. End of the very predictable story that went perfectly according to the plan.

Four of the group, including Thunberg, agreed to immediate deportation, while the eight others contested the repatriation order. They have been detained near Tel Aviv airport awaiting a court hearing on their legal status.

You’re missing one major difference. US doesn’t enforce blockade over Canada

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip_(2023–present)

How morally wrong this is, is whole another discussion, just pointing out why this was never going to happen and went according to the plan.

Seizing/intercepting for deportation. Not trying to defend Israel, but it was pretty clear from the start that this was their mission, and it went perfectly according to the plan, and now media can have a field day.

EDIT: Apparently they didn’t even bother loading the boat full with aid

Are you AI? Because you keep repeating things I was pretty clear about I don’t support. Ie. For the third time, I never said I support their colonization, yet you keep talking about it. You also keep downvoting all my comments, yet I never downvoted not even one from you. Sorry, but I do not feel like engaging with you any further as you seem toxic and not clear-headed.

How is this relevant to 2025?

Because it borderline sounded like you claimed Jews simply appeared there during WW2 and started occupying whatever they could. That is factually wrong as there is a deep Jewish history to said region. And before you throw some genetic argument at me about how those are Europeans that migrated here, understand that Jews are ethnoreligious group, not a genetic group like slavs. It doesn’t matter if you, a muslim, were born in opposite side of the world. There is a place where it will be always sacred for you, a home, written in blood and history, a home disregarded by many, but then those many keep finding Jewish artifacts there.

Your upcoming quote pretty much confirmed what I’m trying to say.

Does it make sense to go near 2000 years to justify a genocide when the modern settlers aren’t even from the region?

I was quite clear about “both sides are terrible”. That is in no way justification for any of their actions, it roughly translates to “This shit is fucked up so hard from all sides that I can’t get morally invested in this for my own sanity and rather focus on my own region”. If you actually assumed that I’m supporting Israel’s actions, then you haven’t been following what I’m saying.

There’s more a more recent genetic and historical presence in Eastern Europe for Russians than there is for Zionist settlers in Palestine.

But the thing is, that argument is never used in real life, by anyone, and so you’re not hearing counter-arguments. No one is saying that Russia wants to take over Baltics because genetic or historical presence. That is simply not an argument here, and I don’t think you fully understand what “Slav” is, as it’s not some Russian origins. At least I’m not aware of it. I also never claimed that about Israel and Gaza (you keep assuming things, falsely). Israel has expanded far beyond what is theirs.

Honestly, as a history buff, you don’t make much sense to me. Look up what Roman empire did in that region and how name Palestine came to be (around 300ce). You might realize how calling me wrong in that context is pretty ignorant. I’m staying centric.

Another fun reading for you: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_ancient_Israel_and_Judah

Counter-argument: 7oct attacks wasn’t a defense operation. Before you tell me that it was a revenge or “didn’t happen in a vacuum”, then, again, this is why I refuse to take a clear side as both sides have done terrible things. I’d understand them hitting settlers, but fucking tourists enjoying a concert? Naah. Let them fight it out, I have problems of my own (I’m from East Europe with looming russian invasion)

“lived”

they legitimately believe that Muslim countries hate them, and Muslims in general want to kill them

This is plausible, but not entirely without a reason. I stopped taking sides in this mess long ago.

Latvia

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