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  • Some of them definitely. According to Dr HA Hellyer who was interviewed for the article:

    “I keep hearing this from different people connected to the ground on Gaza that there’s a mini civil war brewing between Hamas and anti-Hamas figures,” he said.

    “But the anti-Hamas figures aren’t people like the Palestinian Authority; the anti-Hamas figures are collaborationist forces with the Israelis."

    “From what I’m hearing, Hamas seem to also be going after traditional families and traditional tribes that simply don’t want Hamas to be in charge, not because they’re getting support from the Israelis, but that they just don’t like Hamas.”






  • Interesting although contentious letter detailing an estimate of potential indirect conflict deaths (it includes potential future deaths).

    However, it seems rather simplistic and/or flawed. They simply multiply the casualties Hamas have reported by a “conservative” x4 multiplier which then gives their number. The multiplier comes from this publication and states that most of the casualties are “indirect and caused mainly by preventable infectious diseases, malnutrition, and neonatal- and pregnancy-related conditions that emerged in the resource-poor post-conflict environment.” - which means that this number includes post-conflict casualties that have not yet happened and are preventable. Furthermore, the base number already includes a lot of indirect civilian deaths, and unlike the other conflicts that the x4 multiplier comes from is heavily reported on and followed by media/authorities.

    This article from Die Welte is more recent and examines a more robust study.

    Still, even if we took the estimate provided by the Lancet here at face value, OP’s claim of “millions of people” looks like absurd misinfo to me.








  • Thank you for taking the time to explain your position. I hadn’t seen their latest report until now.

    Most of the above figures have been similar (and I think rather understandable if unfortunate) since oct. 7, but the increased support for forced expulsion & Katz plan is worrying.

    Realistically it seems that there won’t be a negotiated end to the war between Israel & Hamas, I instead expect an enforced peace where Hamas never surrenders and Gaza instead is put under complete Israeli military occupation until (long term) a semi-autonomous civilian regime is set up similar to the W.B.

    Of note, I have previously and still do find this one:

    Oppose peace negotiations with the Palestinian Authority.

    to be a bit of an odd pre-oct. 7 relic. It doesn’t really apply to the current war in Gaza since the PA isn’t a participant. At the very least they should run a separate, similar question regarding Hamas to get a fair assessment of support for a negotiated end to the current war.











  • Here’s the short version (yes, this is incomplete because even writing this is a small essay. If somebody feels like adding context please do so), to answer your question on the background to their statement & position. The position is fairly common outside Lemmy at least.

    History, history, history… (very long story)

    2022: Israel was working on normalizing relations with the Arab countries. Things are relatively peaceful in the ME, albeit pretty shit for Arabs in Gaza & WB, not a warzone though. This succeeding would have been a threat to the Iranian network of terrorist organizations (Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis, groups in Syria such as the IRGC).

    Iran pushes forth October 7 to reignite tensions, training Hamas operatives & such.

    Hamas attacks Israel on Oct. 7 kicking off the war - other Iranian proxy groups soon join in. Initially there is no direct conflict between Israel & Iran.

    2024 april - IDF strikes the Iranian consulate in Syria to take senior officers in the Hezbollah chain of command and assassinates several others. Iran retaliates with missiles against with strikes against Israel proper.

    After that, tit for tat strikes in increasing magnitude and escalations which have culminated in the current situation. No, it was not surprising, this conflict was always fundamentally between Israel & Iran and has been slowly escalating for a long time.



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    It’s targeting testosterone level, which varies by person and there are cis women with higher levels than some men.

    I’m going to stop you right there. Given changes that are slowly permeating both language and legal systems across the world, “man” or “woman” doesn’t really have anything to do with biology anymore, nor are terms like “cis” or “trans” really relevant to biology (more so a persons current legal/presenting gender compared to the one they were assigned at birth). As such they aren’t useful terms when discussing in the context of what biologically is normal with regards to hormone levels.

    The terms that do exist and are relevant (at least in English, my other native language doesn’t have separate words for sex and gender which can complicate medical discussions and also makes folks more attached to the biological definition -_-) are male, female and intersex. When looking at a healthy human female they won’t have anywhere near the testosterone levels of a healthy male - it’s a 5x order of magnitude between the upper female and lower male ranges, even when accounting for PCO/S - which isn’t necessarily unhealthy, but just that extra 10-20% outside the normal female range can be enough to start having effects such as growing facial hair in puberty. The gap - along with XY individuals with low testosterone and XX individuals with high testosterone are those who end up developing in an intersex manner, in one way or another (this is already during the fetal stage).

    Honestly I feel like we’re getting far from the original conversation here, but it’s part of what makes these topics so inherently difficult. Balancing between how sensitive some people can find the topic on a social level (particularly when having dealt with actual bad actors), the huge risk of misinterpretations/miscommunications and then the medical field dealing with the biological situation that ultimately is the basis of all this. Evaluating these topics is amongst the most difficult ethical dilemmas we have in the field - right up there with human euthanasia and I don’t think there can be a single “right” answer. You’re going to end up with different people being hurt wherever the balance is struck and that really, really sucks.


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    but if we need to protect women’s “fair” competition strongly for some reason, shouldn’t we also have leagues for all types of people?

    I think you’re being sarcastic here, but there is a trend in that direction, with paralympics and such. It all comes down to this. How is the protected class of athletes defined? If a space for female athletes is going to exist at all, there needs to be some definition, which inevitably is going to feel arbitrary to some. The one they’ve gone with excludes males and most intersex individuals - allowing a little wiggle room here for folks with XY who have no male testosterone production which medically speaking makes it into a “woman at birth with low androgens” competition since those people will usually have a female phenotype at birth.

    In the case of Imane - it may speculatively (after now reading a little about the circumstances and the “leaked” results) be a case of XY intersex with some kind of androgen dysfunction, either through reduced production via enzyme deficiency or partial insensitivity to testo. Being from a less developed country it’s quite possible that Imane wouldn’t even be aware of such a condition until it came to light due to the testing, and even if it was noticed earlier by Algerian medical professionals it may have been hidden from the patient due to how controversial intersex individuals are in traditionally muslim countries. This was the case for a long time even in the west, some countries even into the 2000’s - “in the best interest of the patient”. Quite tragic really.


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    You can though - at least to the extent that we in empirical science usually refer to “proving” or “disproving” (or rather, indicate or contraindicate a hypothesis). In this case it’d be studies/metastudies on injuries in different kinds of matchups (which can either show a statistically significant difference or not) or in performance of different athletes.

    The case you linked here is regarding football, not boxing, which simply makes it a question of performance rather than also safety (as it is with boxing or other combat sports). The key difference in judgement here is the same reason that there are weight classes - simply wouldn’t be safe (or fair for that matter) to match up a 120kg vs a 60 kg athlete - the latter might literally get killed.

    Performance wise, the most “fair” might be to sort athletes into leagues based on testosterone levels. It’s already known that higher testosterone levels tend to correlate with higher performance, so rather than imposing an arbitrary limit where only the athletes in the “sweet spot” just below the limit get to excel, grade them into brackets based on that. Women’s sports were established in the first place to give women a fair chance at competing, since male vs female competitions in the vast majority of cases end up very one sided.


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    Thing is, my time is limited. I don’t have time to look into every single thing. No, this isn’t some empiric process on my part. It comes down to judgement.

    On the one hand there is a well established organization (and several others actually, I did do a cursory internet search) backed by an army medical professionals, which will get sued into oblivion by these athletes if they are egregiously wrong. What they’re saying also happens to check out with my own knowledge on the topic and news that has circulated (both in regular papers and on occasion medical news).

    On the other hand, there are a bunch of random internet strangers who, without citing any external sources say that the well established organization is wrong and lying.

    So, which one would you be inclined to believe?

    Again, feel free to drop in some material that you think disproves this, I would love to have a look!