Yeah all right, conversation over.
Yeah all right, conversation over.
Well, you know, I actually went there, a few months before the war, and had the chance to talk to people, so maybe check your own propaganda bias.
Proves nothing. Russia itself at one point pretended to want to join NATO, it’s all politicking. And it’s still pointless, a sovereign country is free to do what it wants, if it isn’t, then it’s not free and it has all the reason to fight for its freedom.
The US is practically never the good guy, but Russia is even worse, in this instance they’re absolutely indefensible.
Ukraine wasn’t entering NATO, it was seeking close ties to the EU.
And anyway it’s a sovereign country, it can do whatever the hell it wants, they’re not slaves to Russia.
Change your government then, I’m already overseas, relative to you (unless you’re posting from Moscow).
Nobody forced Russia to invade. You’re saying NATO expansion forced their hand, why? Just because they’d lose their vassal and they didn’t want to. Life in Ukraine SUCKED, that’s why Euromaidan happened; was it pushed by US agencies as well? Maybe, but still it wouldn’t have happened if not for the massive corruption there, much of which was upheld by Russia, see their support for Yanukovych.
I don’t see how it’s necessary to explain what is there for everyone to see: they got Ukrainians fighting for them (well, and themselves as well), then if that’s not enough, the closest NATO countries will probably get into it.
you clearly aren’t grokking what I’m trying to communicate
'cause they can. There’s no good guys in international politics, you can check out an history book to confirm that.
I mean, have you ever been there? I have, it was incredibly corrupt, and this was AFTER 2014. it’s not so unbelievable that people tried to enact a change…
They should feel that they lost the cold war and their kleptocracy isn’t conductive to expanding their already reduced sphere of influence, so they better make peace with the fact.
And I’m sorry you don’t understand sovereignty