• Cethin@lemmy.zip
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    24 hours ago

    Yeah, only idiots think taking dirt (which has been shelled to hell and doesn’t produce anything) is a strategic victory. Dirt doesn’t mean anything. It only matters because it’s a number that can be tracked, and has been in Russia’s favor. Money spent/(GDP + reserves), lives lost/population, and resources lost/production capacity are numbers that dictate your ability to continue fighting. How much dirt you’ve taken hold of doesn’t effect this.

    • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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      22 hours ago

      To be fair, it’s a little more nuanced than that, since much of that dirt has people living on it. But the crucial point is that, up to a point, lost territory can be regained. Lost manpower, materiel and political power are much harder to recover. Territorial gains only really matter if you can make them stick, especially when Ukraine can effectively, and literally, move their manufacturing into friendly territory beyond their own borders.

      But you’re absolutely right that Russia has essentially been claiming territory largely for the optics of it. It’s gotten so bad that there are now credible reports of Russian units basically running the Ukrainian lines, getting as deep as they can before planting a flag and posting a photo (which will immediately be geolocated by OSINT sources) and then running back home.