President Donald Trump said “yeah, I probably will,” when asked whether he would consider pulling U.S. troops from Italy and Spain. “Why shouldn’t I? Italy has not been of any help to us and Spain has been horrible. Absolutely horrible,” he replied, doubling down on his argument that NATO allies have not supported the U.S. during the Iran war. “We helped them [Europe] with Ukraine… but when we needed them, they were not there. We have to remember that.” As of December 2025, there were 12,662 U.S. active-duty personnel stationed in Italy and 3,814 in Spain, according to data from the U.S. Defense Manpower Data Center (DMDC). While Spain has yet to respond to Trump mulling over the troops, Italy’s Defense Minister Guido Crosetto has pushed back. “I wouldn’t understand the reasons behind it. As is clear to anyone, we haven’t used the Strait of Hormuz. And we’ve even offered to carry out a mission to protect shipping—a gesture that, incidentally, was greatly appreciated by the U.S. military,” he told Italian ANSA news agency.

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    It’s a long weekend here in Japan and I have to go to the prosecutor’s office tomorrow to interpret for what is likely going to be a US Marine who did something incredibly stupid. I wish they’d leave Okinawa too.

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    “Withdraw Troops” means evacuate injured soldiers, sailors and marines from destroyed ME bases back stateside to ease overcrowding in Germany.

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    This just in: Donald Trump is a fucking moron and will lose every deal he’s ever made. News at 24/7.

    The news I want to see: the fuck project 2025 people are doing. If someone can share those links, I’ll let you pet my dog, She’s cute and loves nearly everyone and might even make a better president.

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    I mean I think most people in those countries would appreciate that move.

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          And their crimes aren’t worth the “economic” gains, and entitled, elitist American scum walking around.

          If they haven’t left the military yet, they’re complicit in their dictator’s actions and are enemies of the old alliances. I have no faith in the protection of American soldiers and fear their ignorance and hate.

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            It’s not that people are evil, it’s that they are broken and lack imagination. They are too busy getting revenge for how much their lives suck to notice that it could be made better for everyone.

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    but when we needed them, they were not there.

    This lie is the most insulting.

    NATO came out in support of its members every time they asked.

    There was but exactly one case, 25 years ago, though.

    It was America asking. We assisted.

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    Those bases are for the benefit of American empire and force projection, not the benefit of Spain and Italy. Or in other words, don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.

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      Which is why he won’t do this. One of his sycophants will explain at a 5th grade level that those bases benefit the US and Trump will forget about this.

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        Which is WHY HE WILL DO IT. It’s all to the benefit of Russia (and China). Every action he has taken makes sense through the lens of dismantling America. The rift is just an excuse to do Putin’s bidding.

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    Fucking do it then they’ll be more protected from retaliatory forces as they won’t be targets anymore.

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    Learning disability piece of shit forgot that after withdrawing troops from Germany they were never allowed to return.