This is not a facetious question. I know I can technically ask AI but i don’t think this is a simple answer TBH, as I am confused about process, and I do not know enough about US politics.

All my life when observing US politics (which I don’t really do for fun) there has generally been a very visible opposition leader, you know their name their stance etc. It’s the same for most major powers. But for the USA I simply do not know anymore. I get the jist there is only 2 parties but the democratic party seems like its just disappeared. Previously there was news of candidates etc but that’s just gone.

What is happening? and who is the leader of the opposition now?

I am not looking for a bunch of FTrump answers, it would be great to have a discussion that’s rational and not about him.

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    I come from a country using the more traditional form of the “Westminster” system of government that the US’ system is also based upon but which from the outset made significant departures from. Because your use of the term “opposition leader” I’m going to hazard a guess you might be from another Westminster Style parliamentary democracy nation as well. If that’s the case I think what’s happening here is that you’re expecting a “leader of the opposition”, a singular individual officially holding that specific title, like we have in Westminster style Parliamentary systems. The US works a bit differently, and no such role exists. Likely the reason you remembered a person occupying this role in the past is because you were probably seeing press coverage of the opposition party’s official presidential candidate, which would look like a leader of the opposition to us but there’s a big difference because they do a different job.

    In the US system the elected representatives of both chambers of their bicameral system, which over there is referred to as “congress” rather than “parliament” as in many Commonwealth countries, are voted in by local electoral processes like in Westminster systems, however unlike in the Westminster system, the ‘executive branch’ which is the branch of government that is headed by the office of, ‘president’ is voted in by an entirely separate process and the president themselves aren’t a member of the congress; they’re not in the House of Representatives or the Senate and they also don’t have to face question time by them either. When the president loses an election or serves out their maximum term limits, they tend to fade from media attention because they don’t have any real job anymore in the party. In a Westminster system, a Prime Minister has a double job, they got their seat in parliament and thus eligibility for their Prime Minister role by winning an election to be the elected representative of a small local area within the nation they govern at the same time as their party’s officially chosen leader which the party gave them through internal decision making. This means when their party is in power their job is to be both a local representative and a prime minister and when their party is out of government, their job is to continue to be that local representative (unless that local area got sick of them and also voted them out) AND the official leader of the “shadow” cabinet. In that role as leader of the opposition they have to represent the party in front of the media and respond to the actions of the government of the day and criticise and challenge them. They’re a constant face as they try to either lead the party BACK in to power they lost or until the party has a vote internally and decides that the public probably won’t vote for them while they continue to have their current leader and they decide to pick a different one.

    In the US system parties have leaders in each of their two chambers of congress, one for the Senate and one for the House of Representatives so that’s why if you ask your question as you’ve phrased it, some people might answer you with Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries who are the opposition or “Minority” leaders in both the Senate and House of Representatives respectively right now, both of them from the Democratic party which does not currently hold majority in either chamber hence “minority” leaders. This can get pretty confusing if you’re used to the Westminster system because in the US, the election of their president and the election of members of their congress (which would be our parliament) are entirely separate elections and the process by which one becomes a one of two leaders in Congress on behalf of a party or by which one becomes a party’s official presidential nominee are different and so you have no opposition leader or 3 depending on what you decide the equivalent of the opposition leader is.

    So finally, the bit that hopefully explains why it seemed like before you had a more known face as a leader of the opposition. When they pick candidates for Presidential elections, as opposed to Congress, major parties in the US have since the 70s done this via a process of lots of separate local elections around the country known as the ‘primaries’ run by the parties themselves (which are private organisations) with votes cast by members of the public who’ve chosen to register with the party. It’s a very long winded process but eventually this leads to an additional voting contest where the people voting are party insiders that are theoretically bound to vote in a way that lines up with the results of those earlier contests. This happens on the year of a presidential election so until then they don’t officially have a nominee. Likely in the past there would have been a lot of coverage of a nominee once they became an official nominee so those could well be the people you were thinking of as opposition leaders before. There’s usually also pretty strong favourites before someone is officially announced as a nominee including former presidential race losers sometimes as happened with Trump and so there’s usually some faces that kinda looks like they’re probably likely to be the next presidential nominee for their party before this process and also during the long months of primaries before the official final vote that picks a winner. If your question was why isn’t anyone seemingly strongly emergent from your perspective this time around well as an outsider I’m less well placed to know the answer but I would suspect that the way things shook out last time with them having to dump Biden at the last minute and inserting Harris outside of the whole primaries process and then her losing has left them in a bit of a shambles and that messy loss combined with a lot of ill will over what seemed to be a concerted effort by party insiders back in 2016 to rig the process of selecting their nominee and the fact that they’re in minority in both chambers of congress might have made the party a more fractured entity of late with less candidates that have strong public support and the blessing of the powerful party insiders, that are clearly raising their heads just yet. But this last bit I’m really much less informed about, I’m mostly just focusing on the US electoral mechanics because they seem so weird when you’re used to the Westminster system.

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    The Democrat higher ups by and large threw a temper tantrum when their base protested them allowing their emotional support ethnostate to murder people with impunity.

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    Rid yourself of the notion that democracy lies in political parties fighting each other where you get to vote on them, and you will realize that all capitalist democracies are just elaborate dictatorships disguising themselves every 4 or so years.

    This “democracy” is exactly the kind of system that brought Trump to power with a useless “opposition” party that is comfortably looking away while Trump does all the dirty work that they would also like to have done if it didn’t ruin their facade.

    The only real opposition can come from the people themselves.

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      Seems about right, this happens in Mexico too where people will try to outvote whatever political party is in power without taking into account that every politician will just jump to that party

      It’s awful, because even leftists will tell you Mexico is better than ever and we are socialists or something, but that’s far from the truth

      As usual the people in power just use PEMEX to get filthy rich

      edit: if anyone ACTUALLY living here in Mexico has different view on this topic please share it instead of blindly downvotting because im aware i can be biased due to foreign (US) propaganda

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      You are right. It’s something I am trying to figure where and how I make a difference. What force do I have. It’s more that I have been conditioned this think support of a parties policy is a way forward. My mind is shifting, but I am only one person.

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    As @Cowbee@lemmy.ml mentioned, PSL (and a few other socialist parties), are the only real opposition, since they’re a working-class party that’s consistently anti-war and anti-capitalism.

    From crash course socialism:


    Socialists view democracy under capitalism to be impossible. Most current-day systems are better labeled as Bourgeois Democracy, or democracy for the rich only, which socialists contrast with proletarian democracy. Under capitalism, political parties, representatives, infrastructure, and the media are controlled by capitalists, who place restrictions on the choices given to workers, limit their representative options to vetted capitalist puppets, and limit the scope of public debate to pro-capitalist views.

    Bourgeois democracies are in reality Capitalist Dictatorships, resulting in legislation favorable to the wealthy, regardless of the population’s actual preferences. The Princeton Study, conducted in the US in 2014, found that the preferences of the average US citizen exert a near-zero influence on legislation, making the US system of elections and campaigning little more than political theater. Multi-party, Parliamentary / representative democracy has proven to be the safest shell for capitalist rule, regardless of voting methods or differing political structures, for countries as diverse as Australia, Japan, Sweden, the UK, the US, South Korea, or Brazil.

    Ancient Greek philosophers like Plato and Aristotle more accurately defined Democracy as rule by the poor, and they considered states based on elections to be anti-democratic Aristocracies, since only the wealthy and ruling families have the resources to finance elections. They contrasted this with random selection / sortition, and citizen’s assemblies, as being the defining features of democracy, both of which are nonexistent in the countries listed above. Today, liberal / parliamentary “democracies” are dominated by wealthy candidates, and entrenched political families, with Capitalists standing above political power.

    This system of sham elections acts as a distracting theater piece, giving the illusion of democracy, whilst in reality it serves to platform capitalist views, make them appear more popular than they are, and manufacture consent for the system itself.

    Examples of restrictions include a media and news monopoly, 2, gerrymandering, long term limits with no way to recall unpopular representatives, restrictions crafted to disenfranchise poor and minority voters, bills directly crafted by lobbyists and bourgeois lawmakers, voter suppression, electoral fraud, unverifiable closed source electronic voting systems, capitalist campaign financing, low voter to representative ratios, inconvenient voting locations and times, and most importantantly, candidate stacking. Most elections are performed before we ever get to the polling booth. In short, political democracy can’t exist without economic democracy, and true democracy is only possible when workers control production.

    The impossibility of Capitalist democracy to make a transition to working-class democracy is best shown by the phrase: Capitalists will not allow you to vote away their wealth. Pacifism, and elections have never been an effective means of disenfranchising the ruling class.

    Communists propose building alternatives alongside of bourgeois democracy, with the goal of to replacing it with Proletarian democracy. Measures might include:

    • Replacement of bourgeois parliamentary bodies with broadly inclusive workers organizations, such as unions, councils, or syndicates.
    • Seizing land, productive facilities, and housing and putting them under democratic control.
    • Elimination of all debts, suppression of all private banks and stock markets.
    • Direct democracy in as many decisions as possible, often called cyber communism.
    • A democratically planned economy for human needs, with open participation.
    • Low-level workplace democracy.
    • Elimination of the standing army, and the substitution for it of armed workers.
    • An emphasis on universal education, health-care, child-care, care for the elderly, and human welfare, paid for socially.
    • Increase in productive technology.
    • Low levels of wealth and income inequality, often driven by a system of labor vouchers for compensation.
    • Experts (if any) elected by the working class through universal suffrage.
    • All representatives and officials (including police) are revocable at any time.
    • Public officials are paid worker’s wages.
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    The official opposition leadership is Jefferies and Schumer. They are both wildly innefective as leaders. Unfortunately. Frankly I’m puzzled as to how no politician has been able to capitalize on this vacuum of oppositional power.

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    Bernie Sanders and AOC are about the closest you would get to a true opposition. But given that their own party keeps gimping them they can’t do much except stump for their position.

    In the US, I’d argue that the democrats are a “controlled opposition” that is also subservient to the same oligarchs that have captured the republicans.

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      I’d say actual socialist orgs like PSL count far more as opposition. Bernie and AOC depend too heavily on the existing establishment, and thus are powerless against it, while PSL is steadily building a full alternative.

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        Except most people haven’t even heard of the PSL. Hell, I tend to stay on top of politics and never even heard about them till today. So they’re really no more of an opposition at this point than a random few people who say they want to change the country.

        Bernie and AOC are trying to effect change from within the system, which at this point is a more powerful place to do it from.

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          Bernie and AOC have not succeeded in meaningfully changing the system, though, so there’s no evidence that this is a “more powerful place.” Bernie and AOC are more establishment friendly and thus have people among the establishment platforming them, which defangs their allowed progressivism in order to keep them in the public eye. PSL actually stands to bring real change.

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          The Democratic party is over. Republicans went mask off authoritarian. Democrats went mask off authoritarian fandom.

          Any other party has a better chance at winning a popular vote, than the Democrats do.

          Republicans only appeal to people who respect strength and aren’t paying attention.

          Democrats appeal to no one.

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            Any other party has a better chance at winning a popular vote

            Not defending them, but there is some serious doubt there. Any other party, besides republicans, put up the same showing as Linux in a Steam survey. Sure it looks like they’re growing at 100%, but it’s still only 5% overall.

            Until that is broken and majority of people realize there are more than two parties, your best approach is going to be primarying and change within the party.

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              Until that is broken and majority of people realize there are more than two parties, your best approach is going to be primarying and change within the party.

              I agree 100%.

              I just also think that best chance is now 0%, because we know that established Democrats stand for nothing.

              Republicans stand for shitty things, but they do a better job hiding that they’re just working for billionaires.

              Edit: To be clear - I will continue to vote for the candidate my union representative endorses, and I hope others do, as well.

              But I will also continue to encourage my union leaders to look outside the Democratic party to build a strong coalition.

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    The two opposition leaders in the US are:

    Chuck Schumer in the Senate and Hakeem Jefries in the House.

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    The US doesn’t have a parliamentary system so there really isn’t. Singular opposition leader outside of election seasons. The senate minority leader is the closest thing to an opposition figurehead, which would make Chuck Schumer the opposition leader.

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      This is the right answer. “Opposition leader” or a “shadow cabinet” are not meaningful terms in American politics. It’s like asking who the President of the UK is.

      You could go for somewhat equivalent congressional roles like House/Senate minority leaders, or you could try to point to specific political figures that seem to be trying harder to oppose the regime who may or may not be in the federal government like governors, or people like the chair of the DNC.

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        And that’s the problem, i live where there is a different political setup so i am trying to be mindful of the layers you guys have and how someone rises to power. I admit tv and media has in the past shaped what i thought was the case.

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      Beyond “whomever holds the highest office at the moment,” there’s “whomever gets the biggest media coverage.” That might be Gavin Newsom, who’s not very popular, even in his home state. Bernie Sanders and AOC always get good coverage, but that’s partly because they’re so far outside the mainstream.

      US isn’t really set up for singular leaders at the national level, which is part of what makes Trump so unusual.

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    Jefferies and Schumer.

    It should be pointed out that it’s not like a parliamentary opposition as seen in many other democracies with political discourse over a dispatch box with the leader of parliament.

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    Tbh it could just be that the dems are doing a China move: do nothing and win

    Right now trump can either reference Biden, knowing people are sick of that, or he simply doesn’t have a definite target, “the radical left”. An emerging leader of the centre would give him a target. So it makes sense they stay quiet.

    I’m not a us citizen tho, I know that there is a lot of political activism, especially around the DSA, and the recent big protests are good signs. What I expect is that whoever ends up being the democratic leader will have a very hard time being a centrist. The demo-socialists have a big chance, but corporate media is also going to play its role in supporting a rethoric of “now that we’ve seen crazy let’s go for someone respectable, not another crazy”.

    The opposition, in the wide sense, is basically Sanders and the DSA, in my view, because they are popular and they are winning some local elections, including NY. But I still doubt they are going to be the face of the dem strategy for 2028, let alone the midterms.

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      There’s a saying in US politics. “The Democrats fall in love and the Republicans fall in line.”

      Obama, Jimmy Carter, and Bill Clinton were all great speakers who could connect with voters at a personal level. Gore, Hillary Clinton, and the other losing candidates never had that spark.

      There were a lot of “Never Trump” GOPs who shut up and fell in line once he got the nomination. Lindsay Graham said Trump was terrible, then turned around and kissed his feet repeatedly.

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    The leadership in the Democratic Party is absolutely miserable at communicating, especially in this digital era. They seem to still believe in the discredited Biden era philosophy that if you simply do good things people will notice.

    That’s compounded by the fact that Trump is particularly good with his lizard brain at dominating the airwaves. That makes it much harder to get your messaging out but honestly they are barely even trying. And I’m not sure they have a compelling message to begin with.

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      They seem to still believe in the discredited Biden era philosophy that if you simply do good things people will notice.

      Good things like supporting genocidal ethnostates or signing bills to make worker strikes illegal?