Trump re-upped his disdain for European allies that have refused to take part in the U.S. and Israel's military operation against Iran.

President Donald Trump has warned the U.K. and France that the “U.S.A. won’t be there to help you anymore,” as he vented his frustration over the close allies’ refusal to join military action against Iran.

  • UnspecificGravity@piefed.socialEnglish
    35·
    22 hours ago

    You seem pretty confident in that despite the fact that large scale wars have made the current players in this war rich and powerful in the first place.

    Look at the outcomes of WWII. The US and Russia emerge as superpowers. Hell, it’s the only reason Israel even exists.

    Wars exist because they benefit the ruling class.

    • halcyoncmdr@piefed.socialEnglish
      2·
      14 hours ago

      Look at the outcomes of WWII. The US and Russia emerge as superpowers.

      The US and Russia emerged as superpowers because 99% of the fighting wasn’t on their land. They didn’t have to rebuild.

        • halcyoncmdr@piefed.socialEnglish
          2·
          9 hours ago

          Why? Because you think there’s enough difference between the USSR and Russia to differentiate between them? The only major difference is that half the continent is no longer under Russian rule. Russia is USSR light. Same shit different day, regardless of what they want to claim about communism/capitalism/oligarchs/etc. It’s the rich fucks running everything and killing or “disappearing” anyone critical of the regime.

    • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
      7·
      21 hours ago

      Hell, it’s the only reason Israel even exists.

      This is an understandably common view, but it’s not true. The only fundamental change WWII brought to Palestine was weakening the British Empire; Zionists, partially due to British support, were by far the ascendant group in Palestine as early as 1939, so Israel was going to appear as soon as the British left Palestine. Zionist wealth and diplomacy, Arab weakness and division, Western colonial ambitions and British colonial policy made something resembling the current situation inevitable with or without WWII.

      • John Richard@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        21 hours ago

        Does anyone remember when Zionists bombed a ship full of Jewish refugees in 1940 (SS Patria Disaster) and Palestinians helped save victims from the water and then many were forced out of their homes 8 years later by Zionists?

    • MadhuGururajan@programming.devEnglish
      4·
      19 hours ago

      You seem pretty confident in that

      if you ask me to gamble on starting of a nuclear war vs. it not happening… I wouldn’t risk it.

      Look at the outcomes of WWII

      I did look at the outcomes. It was quite a different set of circumstances.

      1. Most of the world did not have Nuclear Missiles.
      2. We didn’t have Social Media to the extent to allow a small group of people to spread FUD so easily.
      3. We didn’t have global mega-corps manipulating the fabric of society with impunity. The average CEO is out of touch with workers and only thinks ahead 3 months. There is a lot of arrogance and ignorance about concepts beyond one’s understanding.
      4. Making Money/Having Clout is the only metric of success.
      5. Human induced climate change is messing with the ecological system and making it difficult to rely on crops. It will hit hard especially when we are not paying attention due to pointless wars.
      6. There is a fucking betting market for if a child gets bombed to bits in some part of the world, and a pedophile and his cabinet seem to be doing insider trading on it.
      7. Every fucker is a racist or facist or adjacent. Empathy has taken a permanent sabbatical.

      Wars exist to benefit the ruling class. But if all of the ruling class dies it’s fucking stupid.