MJ calls what happened to her in Zion national park “small ‘T’ trauma”. She knows women have experienced worse from their partners. But she still feels the anger of being left behind on a hike by her now ex. “It brings up stuff in my body that maybe I have not cleared out yet,” she said.

Five years ago, MJ and a new partner – he was not exactly her boyfriend, and the pair were not exclusive – traveled from Los Angeles to Utah for an adventure getaway. MJ, who is 38 and works in PR, was looking forward to exploring Zion’s striking scenery; its vast sandstone canyon and pristine wading trails were on the list. But on the morning of their big hike, MJ was not feeling well. She could not shake the feeling that something was “off”; indeed, MJ would learn on this trip that her partner was seeing other women.

As they made their way up Angel’s Landing, MJ’s partner started walking faster than her. “I could tell it was getting on his nerves that I was slow,” she said. “I was like, ‘Fuck it, just go ahead of me.’” He did without hesitation.

When she caught up at the top of the mountain, they took a picture together. Then her partner hiked down the mountain with a woman he had met on the way up, leaving MJ to finish by herself. They broke up shortly after that trip. (MJ asked to be referred to by her initials for the sake of speaking openly about a past relationship.)

Last month, MJ opened TikTok and heard the phrase “alpine divorce”, a label she now attaches to her experience in Zion.

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    Co-opting alpine divorce, which regularly involves a murder attempt, feels weird? Just call it the sierra split.

    I do wonder how much of this is a cheapening of the weekend getaway, where you’d go to a B&B upstate, find out your potential partner snores, drinks to much, is rude to service workers, or views a toothbrush as optional. You’d sigh and split. It’s just a bad weekend.

    But with this, camping and hiking is a complication. You’re drinking warm filtered water from a Nalgene, eating granola because someone forgot to bring a lighter. Also, it’s raining and all your socks are wet. Did you bring anything to wash dishes? Ah, there are no dishes. You smell like smoke and are covered in sand.

    Granted, you can do camping/hiking well, but I’d bet some of these cases are from people doing it poorly, trying to save a buck by avoiding more expensive weekend getaways.

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      The article literally goes over a recent case where a man killed his girlfriend by leaving her in the wilderness on a hike.

      But sure, I bet she died only because they realized they aren’t compatible in a relationship.

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        Are you talking about the famous case? Where the guy declined the helicopter rescue, and later left his partner without being wrapped in a sheet to get help? That one sounds way more alpine than getting ditched on a crowded hike.

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          Y’all expect women to kowtow to the men in here, we’re allowed to push back.

          So many assumptions about the women in these stories and none of ya even read the damn article.

          Women are allowed to share our abuse stories. Deal with it.

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            8 hours ago

            Why would my response have anything to do with the gender of the person I’m replying to? How do you expect me to even know that information? How do you know I’m not a woman? (I’m not, just pointing out that immediately making this a men vs women thing is bad.)

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              8 hours ago

              It’s clear from our comments that OP and myself are women.

              You can pretend that lemmy isn’t overwhelmingly male dominated at this time, but I won’t.

              I didn’t make this a men vs women thing, it had already become that days ago.

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                8 hours ago

                Lemmy is absolutely male dominated, I just don’t like perpetuating the gender war discourse. There are some reasonable takes in here and I would prefer not to have it be drowned out by the “women weak” and “men evil” takes I’ve seen being tossed around.

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                  8 hours ago

                  Then maybe you should be calling out your fellow men rather than pushing back against the few women in here.

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                    8 hours ago

                    I’ve done both. I just have longer comment chains arguing with the women because misogynistic comments have the depth of a puddle and there’s not much more to say to them than “you suck and I hate your entire worldview”.

                    I also again disagree with the framing that allegiance here should be gender-based.