• themoken@startrek.website
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    2 days ago

    Not that these are wrong, but I wonder about recency bias. Have these indicators been trending downward for 20 years, or is this just a response to our current crop of morons?

    If Obama v2 was elected tomorrow, would these instantly reverse, like the international opinion seemed to when he took over from W?

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      2 days ago

      Have these indicators been trending downward for 20 years,

      They have trended down at least since Bush. Obama restored a lot, more than I thought possible. But 2 times electing Trump has resulted in people not trusting USA anymore, even if there’s a better administration next time.
      So I think that for sure these numbers have generally trended down for about 25 years now. But the 2nd time with Trump is clearly the worst. This is not “trending down” anymore, this is the numbers falling off a cliff. Again because the distrust is in the USA population too. We can’t trust a new administration either, because the next could be another Trump. Trump is a symptom not the cause.

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        the next could be another Trump

        E.g. Prez Tucker Carlson on an anti-Israel + pro-deportations ticket

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      There’s probably going to be some reversal in such a scenario but I think this time it goes deeper than that. People see it’s not just the clowns in the White House, it’s also all major American corporations and their owners. Those won’t change with the coming of Obama v2, and they’re not about to start exracting less from us. Meanwhile China’s gonna keep taking more and more mindshare by delivering more and more high and low tech products in people’s lives. I think a significant reversal that puts the US above China would only occur under an FDR-like figure that curbstomps the whole US oligarchy.

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        You are not wrong. The change must totally reject and punish the destructive greed and the exploitation of the non-rich by the Epstein class.