Brussels has shifted into crisis mode, with emergency meetings piling up Saturday and Sunday.
As European leaders raced to respond to the rapidly escalating conflict in the Middle East on Saturday after the United States and Israel launched strikes against Iran, the crisis exposed fault lines inside Europe — and across the Atlantic.
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Brussels moved quickly to strike a cautious tone. EU foreign policy chief Kaja Kallas warned on X that the situation was “perilous,” while European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen stressed it was “of the utmost importance” to prevent further escalation. European Parliament President Roberta Metsola also urged restraint.
At the national level, however, Europe’s message was less unified.
Every US/Israeli lie is still true, just some concern trolling over head of state assassinations and school bombings. “Urging restraint” while saying US/Israel is right on all points, not condemning them, is full moral support for the warmongering/demonism and any moral/legal opposition to their own future assassinations.
Israel and the US invading yet another country is “perilous”. Fuck the EU, empire lapdogs
Hear, hear!
t. European
Three things can be true at once, its good that Iran is being helped, Trump is doing this illegally and the EU should have acted and do this based on International Law a long time ago.
Iran is being “helped” by bombing schoolgirls?
I do believe you are deliberately not reading or understanding the point.
I have Iranian friends that fled for their lives from the Iranian regime. I’ve seen their videos and heard their stories. Trust me, they have lost 1000’s of schools full of schoolgirls because of the current regime. They will gladly except another few if it means stopping the regime.
THAT is the level of absolute horror these people have been living with for decades now. We cannot be mad about what is happening now to prevent worse.
p.s. I still have nightmares from their videos. I lost all faith in humanity that day, and it took a while to get some of it back…
Nice Zionist atrocity propaganda, surely an Iraq-style “government reorganization” will help wonders! No mention of the current government in Iran being literally the consequence of western meddling!
If the west wanted a secular democratic government in Iran we wouldn’t have destroyed Mosaddeq’s political project and reinstated an authoritarian Shah. We want an underdeveloped and servient Iran to exploit their oil cheaply, literally the same story every decade.
The question is: did you fall for the atrocity propaganda yourself yet another decade? Or are you willingly running Zionist atrocity propaganda?
Good lord. You guys are angry.
I do not want to make it worse, but I truly feel you do not understand. Or you have not lived a hard life, for which I’m somewhat jealous.
So yes, the regime was a result of the west in the first place. And it was not going to be pretty to fix it. And Trump is not doing this to fix it, but to … well … I do not know, take people’s minds off of the Epstein files? Make money? I don’t know, but I hate him for it.
And I’m not “trading” a school for “better roads” are you mental (This one is from another poster btw, @orioler25@lemmy.world )? Everybody would choose the lesser of two evils. So 80 schoolchildren or 10000’s of them? If you HAD to choose? And these people do, they have to choose, and they’ve been forced to make these and other hard choices for decades now. And you come along and DARE to say what is happening now is bad? Where where you the past decades?
I have no love for the capitalists, for the colonizers, for Israel, USA, EU. I do however love people. And the fact these people have had to make real politik like choices? Makes me sad. I see the truth of it though. And I hope you guys will as well some day.
Totally, yeah dude, “invite the genocidal imperialists in to aid in the revolution” is the mentality of a person who has experienced any level of oppression. You’ve had a very hard life, I’m sure, typical Euro Lib who thinks having to do anything is adversity. You had to study for your exams? That’s about the same as having your entire life bombed into oblivion, or at the very least you know as well as someone who did experience that because you watched a video.
Gaslighting language and ignorance, you really are a bad person.
I hope you will awaken from the Maga cult some day. You are currently an unpleasant person the way you attack. Be better.
The enemy of my enemy is something the people in Iran currently feel about the US and Israel. Never said they are or should glad with the USA or Israel. But currently, they are happy there is an end to the dictatorship they had to endure. Let’s hope they do not get a new one.
“Realpolitik choices make me support the genocidal Zionist regime and the US in their attempt to destroy Iranian sovereignty to turn Iran into another Iraq, Syria or Libya”
Hell no. Again, multiple things can be true at once. USA is bad. Komeini is bad. At this moment, many people are glad at least one of them is gone.
Iranians can have complaints about their situation, without looking for a Zionist puppet to rule over them.
Exactly! You get it. Right now they are glad to get rid of one dictator, let’s hope the future is one they get to choose themselves.
Who the actual fuck do you think you are? Killing children isn’t helping Iran and will never help Iran. What you just said was so fucking colonizer-brained it’s unreal, please point out which school in your neighbourhood you’d want bombed if it meant the city finally implemented better public transit. You’d what, welcome a nuke in D.C. if it meant the fascists were gone? 9/11 was helping the Americans by attacking the capitalists? There would not be a fucking oppressive regime in Iran if the US did not overthrow their democratically elected government half a century ago. How the fuck are you talking about this like you know anything? Some people told you it was bad there and you wat, never even tried to learn why that happened?
Legality also does not fucking matter, laws are enforced on the vulnerable to the benefit of the powerful. How many invasions do you think the US has conducted legally, exactly?
With them saying the bombing was a result of a breakdown in negotiations, it’s hard not to see the rest of the article as complete propaganda. This was not a breakdown in negotiations.
It says the attacks came after (“followed”) stalled negotiations. They did.
Almost the entire article is direct quotes.
Those were not negotiations, they planned this shit in advance. If the choice is give us everything we want or we kill you tomorrow, it’s not a negotiation. I hope they “negotiate” back at us the same way now.
I’m not saying they were negotiating in good faith. Personally, I don’t think they were. But they’re still called ‘negotiations’ because they were taking to each other. That talking preceded the attacks. There have been articles for days about the talks not going anywhere.
Good faith negotiations simply weren’t going to happen after Trump cancelled the deal that was in place an assassinated Iran’s top general in his first term. This war was pretty much inevitable at that point.
Maybe if Harris were President and Trump were in jail trust could’ve been rebuilt and the war could’ve been avoided. Oops… I forgot I was on the “both sides are the same” website, nevermind LOL
I mean Biden certainly didn’t do much to (re)earn Iran’s trust, and Israel did bomb Iran during his term to little to no US resistance.
Gonna need a source for your claim on an Israeli airstrike on Iran during Biden’s term.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Iran–Israel_conflict ??? I thought this was a pretty famous incident.
The negotiations stalled because Israel wanted them stalled and the orangeboi regime played ball.
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The only thing Europe is scrambling to figure out is how to reaffirm their servitude to the US. They are just so pathetic.
If you are american, and haven’t risen up in arms to topple the tyrant (despite that being one of the excuses for the 2nd) you have not earned the right to call Europe/Europeans anything. Let me remind you that in Europe, every so often, a president/premier is toppled by the people, through massive, constant movilization, general strikes, etc. Get your house in order. and then comment on others, if you wish.
Funny, that despite all that popular action, Europe is still so servile the United States. I was just criticizing the leadership in Europe, but if things are really as democratic over there as you’re claiming, perhaps that derision should be directed to the European people.
Nowhere did I claim anything democratic (even though I could). I claim that when a head of government really fucks up, Europeans sometimes rise up to the challenge. Brave Americans seem to have lost that capacity since the 1700’s. Also, that which you call servility, can be interpreted as “let the chest pounding gorilla pay for most of the expenses of our protection”. Trump wasn’t all that wrong about having European countries pay a bigger share, although for the US it was cost efficient to foot a larger part of the bill, to keep the first line of defense an ocean away.
But yeah, remove Turd. Then you will have earned the right to talk about others.
Yep, it is embarrassing to see how much they want to polish that pedorapists knob instead of standing for the values the EU is supposed to mean.
Venezuela was already a deep low, but that shit now is even worse.
What would you have them do?
What they did to Russia, cause there is no difference in their actions.
I’m not explaining geopolitics 101
It’s not geopolitics
Russia attacked whites whereas US attacked browns, only difference.
Please stop responding, I don’t have time to explain the absolute basics of geopolitics to yet another American
Basics of geopolitics to you: killing brown people doesn’t matter
I’m not explaining geopolitics 101
Not an American
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this is worse than a youtube comment section
Which Youtube comment section? OP is not a Youtube link.
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I’ve edited it to make it clearer, I’m saying the level of intelligence in the comments here is low
I’m sure comments like this will inspire people. You’re really good at this.
that’s it, time to immediately halt all trade with Canada! 😅
In what ways? What are you objecting to here?
dude you’re killing me
I’m not suprised. Germany, for example, has a right wing party at the helm. And even if that were not the case, all the old politicians still have the mindset of vassal states deeply ingrained.
Why are we even slightly pro-Iran in EU? That doesn’t make any sense. The values of their regime are the polar opposite of ours and they have been directly helping Russia against Ukraine. They have clearly chose to be our enemies.
Its not about supporting Iran. Its about wholly rejecting the religious crusade of the most violent and bloodthirsty military powers out there.
“Religious” is debatable. I’m sure the proles shooting at and dropping bombs on the innocents have a little bit of “Deus Vult”, crusader religious fervor but the leaders don’t believe in anything (they’ll pretend for the silly masses), they just want the bag.
Iran chose to be our enemies by looks at history fighting Israeli influence in the middle east.
You are literally siding with the Zionists right now
Iran has also supplied Russia with Shahed suicide drones since the invasion started
That’s because Iran has been under constant EU sanctioning for half a century. What did Iran do since 1980 to warrant sanctioning?
I don’t see how that is relevant with supplying Russia with weapons agaist Ukraine. I just wanted to point out that their foreign policy is not really aligned with the EU. But to answer your question, I have personally met Iranians and their descendants who have fled because of the Islamic revolution, so there might be something worth critizising if you examine hard enough.
I don’t see how that is relevant with supplying Russia with weapons agaist Ukraine
Iran is sanctioned as an extension of imperialist Western policy -> Iran doesn’t get to trade with the wealthiest markets on Earth -> Iran has to trade with whoever it can -> Iran sells Shahed drones to Russia, pretty simple.
so there might be something worth critizising if you examine hard enough.
Not what they said.
Ciriticisng the government of Iran is legitimate, but out of all times to do this, this is not the correct one. The focus should be on criticizing the military intervention that our own countries are responsible for.
“We don’t like your leadership” isn’t really causus belli for a military strike
And that’s why they were heavily sanctioned.
Rot in hell fucking vassal states.
I wonder who’s downvoting you. I live in a vassal state (and am a national of another) and I know, without a shadow of a doubt, that Daddy America, my country, and my now adoptive country have been engaged in nothing but evil, amoral, murderous power-grabbing pretty much forever.
I’d say that Lemmy is infested with Euronationalist libs, but the real problem is that the world has too many Euronationalist libs.
