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Chough@lemmy.zip to World News@lemmy.worldEnglish · 19 hours ago

Israel launches attack on Iran

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Israel launches attack on Iran

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Ali Khamenei cut off from contact as Israel, US strike Iran | The Jerusalem Post
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Preliminary assessment: Supreme leader likely hurt in Israeli strike • Netanyahu says objective to end Ayatollah's regime • Trump confirms US operation in Iran, tells IRGC to lay down arms
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    Oh no a country slaughtering civilians is going to get invaded… Anyway.

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      Wait, Is Israel being finally invaded?

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      I hope Iranian civilians stay safe. As for the government? Don’t care.

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      This is disgusting. The Zionists are bombing Iran and this is your reaction? Why are you running propaganda for the Zionists?

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        How is this propaganda? The iranian government literally killed thousands of students who were protesting in the streets only a few weeks ago.

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          Guys, guys. Chill.

          Both of these countries are killing their own civilian population. But now one of them is also killing the other country’s population as well. Probably soon to be joined by the other doing the same in return.

          Let me just be the anarchist in the room and say fuck both of these countries. Fuck every country. We shouldn’t have countries. And we especially shouldn’t have countries that kill people, no matter which side of an imaginary line they’re killing people on.

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            One of these countries is defending its civilian population against US bombs, the other is dropping them, don’t both sides this shit because Iran isn’t perfect.

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              I’m not trying to ‘both sides’ this shit as much as I’m trying to ‘no sides’ this shit.

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                You can’t no sides when you live on the side that’s dropping the bombs. The actions your words encourage within the west are the same that the most bloodthristy warhawks encourage. You are not supporting the Iranian people’s struggle by opposing the state protecting them from your state.

                When a zionist says that Hamas doesn’t support gay rights, do you think they are trying to support gay struggles in Palestine? No they’re trying to justify murdering more palestinians, just like anyone who says “Iran also bad” in this thread.

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                  You can’t no sides when you live on the side that’s dropping the bombs.

                  Ahh, good old collective responsibility. Always there when you need it!

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                    That’s not what I’m saying at all, I’m saying to analyze the context of your speech; a US libanarchist opposing Iran isn’t meaningfully different than some bloodthirsty neocon; you’re still supporting the war effort.

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                  The actions your words encourage within the west are the same that the most bloodthristy warhawks encourage.

                  I don’t think the bloodthirsty warhawks are encouraging the abolishment of all states, especially the ones that kill people. And, yes, especially the one I live in.

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              One of these countries is defending its civilian population against US bombs

              Is the US dropping bombs on Iranian civilians? Or are you conflating Israel’s actions in Palestine with this?

              I’m not going to be upset about the Iranian government getting killed, any more than I would be if Iran launched a counter-attack on Mar-a-Lago and killed Trump, or Netanyahu. In fact, I hope that happens. Fuck ‘em all.

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                Is the US dropping bombs on Iranian civilians?

                Yes, have you seen literally any time the US has gone to war anywhere in the last 80 years? We can’t even invade Panama or abduct the president of Venezuela without murdering hundreds to thousands of civilians.

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                  or abduct the president of Venezuela without murdering hundreds to thousands of civilians.

                  Please don’t form your opinion basing on false information.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_United_States_intervention_in_Venezuela

                  Killed:

                  23 or 47 Venezuelan military personnel[a]

                  32 Cuban military and security personnel[9]

                  2 civilians[10]

                  Injured:

                  7 US soldiers[11]

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                    https://www.telesurtv.net/diosdado-cabello-100-fallecidos-agresion-eeuu/

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            Truth.

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          Israel has murdered at least 21,000 CHILDREN over the past 30 months. To think that they have any moral standing is moronic at best, but more likely pure evil.

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            You’re referring to confirmed violent deaths. The number of victims including food deprivation, lack of medicine and sanitation and consequent diseases since Oct 7th is above half a million, about half of them children.

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              Yes, I’m only referencing deaths attributed to direct military action - or the IDF’s direct murder of children with bullets and bombs. This is not to minimize the horror they have inflicted through genocidal policy.

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                Yeah, I wasn’t trying to be belligerent or anything, just wanted to bring attention to it. Thanks for your reminder of the violence of the Zionist entity, we will not forget this

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                  Nope, I didn’t take it as belligerence either, just wanted to confirm I agree.

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            …and the sky is blue. But how is this propaganda? How is invading another country, propaganda for zionists?

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              I think they mean that you can’t fully trust the narrative about protests you read in the Western media. There is Israeli and US involvement in those protests trying to instigate regime change.

              So the OP above is parroting Israeli/US propaganda by saying the protests are a justification for the latest military action.

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              Making a statement that minimizes state violence because it’s against a state that undertakes state violence is still minimizing state violence. In this instance it is minimizing the violence of a genocidal state that is far more violent than the state it is attacking for undertaking state violence.

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          Well in this case, Casey is literally an LLM bot so it’s probably propaganda. Check their modlog.

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          Literal “Hamas is hiding in hospitals” levels of hasbara

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          So Israel and the United States are going to respond by murdering the rest of them? You do know that they bomb indiscriminately correct? I just don’t understand your argument here. If you’re concerned about civilian deaths how could you be supportive of this. They literally bomb hospitals.

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            Cool your tits. I didn’t say any of that.

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          And your source for that is CIA, right

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          Have you seen Gaza bro?

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          Atrocity propaganda justifying Zionist invasion. Literal “Hamas hides in hospitals” levels of bullshit.

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            Hamas had it operational bases under civilian facilities such as hospitals.

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              Look, this Zionist is still living in 2020, back when people believed this shit!

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        • lemming@anarchist.nexus
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          Ever heard of Palestinians? Gaza? No?

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              You said they are promoting not slaughtering civilians, while they are slaughtering civilians.

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                  Hmmm 🤡

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          Zionists are dropping bombs on their population. Iran is defending against Israel and America.

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            too drunk to think?"

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      Because it’s worked out great all the other times the US has done that

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      You’ll just believe anything they tell you, huh?

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          Over 100 officers were also killed by these so-called “protesters” during the riots, doesn’t that strike you as odd?

          The “protesters” attacked police and military targets, armed by Mossad and the CIA. In the chaos many innocent people who got drawn into the riots were also killed, and that’s terrible, but the fault lays firmly at the feet of Israel and the US. They tried to instigate a color revolution, and when that failed they used it as justification for war.

          And you fell for it like you always do, because you’ll just believe anything they tell you.

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            Revolution includes attacking oppressors. Those “officers” were defending regime. Crazy bloodcraving regime. Russia ally regime. Religion nuts regime.

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              There’s nothing revolutionary about acting on behalf of Israel and the US.

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                Yes-yeah, Iranians are unable to act for themselves, they can only do what Israel/USA tell them.

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                  You’re just ignoring the weapons that the US/Israel provided them, huh?

                  They sure as shit wouldn’t have attacked police and military institutions without foreign backing.

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                    wouldn’t have attacked police and military

                    And would stay slaves as you want them to be, right?

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              Yeah you never saw a CIA-backed coup you didn’t like.

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                I sure have, tons of shit they do is bat shit insane but I’ve never fired on civilians in response.

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                  And if the civilians are armed by a foreign country, with the goal of toppling your government? Should the government just let them win?

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                    Probably, they are the ones who are being governed after all, if it is a stupid ass decision it’s their stupid ass decision to make.

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          https://www.resistusledwarmovement.com/uploads/1/1/0/0/110020547/full_series_-_iran_hybrid_warfare_weapons_watch_compressed.pdf

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          They fed you propaganda for a few weeks to soften you up for the war that they were always planning. It’s so fucking obvious that the “protests” were just a prelude to these strikes, and you just eat it up because you’ll just believe anything they tell you.

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            Yep. https://www.resistusledwarmovement.com/uploads/1/1/0/0/110020547/full_series_-_iran_hybrid_warfare_weapons_watch_compressed.pdf

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