The Bible also says disobedient children should be murdered. The Bible says that if you rape a child, you have to give her dad $50 and marry her. The Bible is OBSESSED with foreskin collection.
It says a lot of very stupid tripe, that’s why nobody bothers following it.
Like Old Testament was for the one group in the area who removed those as children. No adult spy would do that for cover, and it would take substantial time to heal to pass
So it wasn’t “we love foreskins, gimmie them foreskins” as much as “give me the one thing that proved you killed an adult man who wasn’t part of us”.
It was genocide, if you weren’t part of ‘the tribe’ you were an enemy and should be killed.
Just So stories about the logical reason for genital mutilation don’t hold water. Even in the Bible, there are accounts of how the Israelites could tell friend from foe: they did it by accent (search on “shibboleth” for more details), not by examining the guy’s schwantz. Much easier from a safe distance.
Also, many other tribal societies also practiced circumcision and other forms of genital mutilation, some living adjacent to each other. And snipping is also practiced in Islam, which encompasses multiple nationalities.
I always laugh at this argument, because there’s a more amusing argument. Yeah, it’s Israel’s land and they’re G-d’s chosen people. But multiple times in the Bible G-d has taken that land from them and even had them enslaved by nearby nations! At this point in the mythos, G-d, the Messiah, has yet to reveal himself. He’s still in silence lol So, based on all that, it sounds like Israel needs to take some responsibility for what they do.
I was just gonna edit my post, and say this, but I think it’s worthy as it’s own post. I like how you bring up “in vain”, because it’s something I detest in the western Christian church mythos. they consider using G-d’s name to be in vain whenever you say it out of the context of evangelism, almost. When, in fact, the use of in vain, is using G-d’s name to justifying your crimes, is using Their name in vain. It’s a pretty neat distinction in the Ancient Hebrew, that western Christianity has conveniently forgot. Thanks, Rome!
Thanks! I’m still gonna do it, because it’s something a part of my life and spiritual journey! It really got started when I started listening to mewothoutYou and I really started looking at all religions more critically. I’ve ended up in a strange place, close to Samsara about it all lol.
Edit: In hindsight, “I’m still gonna do it” came out worse than I intended. I meant it more passive and sheepish, than cavalier.
It’s not that I worry about it, it’s a part of me. It’s not something that I even really think about anymore, I just write it inherently. I actually had a wonderfully, rich conversation with a friend about it recently.
Thanks for asking if that’s something I worry about instead of belittling me!
Thanks for the advice! I will still write G-d out because I like it and it’s a part of my spiritual journey! I’m very big into Samsara and I really like the Hebrew tradition of not writing out G-d’s name from holiness and not wanting to destroy it!
I appreciate you asking why I do it, instead of just calling me a fool with no prior knowledge of me as a person. That could’ve really hurt my feelings and put a damper on my day, so I appreciate all your kind words!
He’s not wrong from a BIBLICAL standpoint.
The Bible also says disobedient children should be murdered. The Bible says that if you rape a child, you have to give her dad $50 and marry her. The Bible is OBSESSED with foreskin collection.
It says a lot of very stupid tripe, that’s why nobody bothers following it.
That makes sense tho…
Like Old Testament was for the one group in the area who removed those as children. No adult spy would do that for cover, and it would take substantial time to heal to pass
So it wasn’t “we love foreskins, gimmie them foreskins” as much as “give me the one thing that proved you killed an adult man who wasn’t part of us”.
It was genocide, if you weren’t part of ‘the tribe’ you were an enemy and should be killed.
So yeah, totally evil, but logical.
Just So stories about the logical reason for genital mutilation don’t hold water. Even in the Bible, there are accounts of how the Israelites could tell friend from foe: they did it by accent (search on “shibboleth” for more details), not by examining the guy’s schwantz. Much easier from a safe distance.
Also, many other tribal societies also practiced circumcision and other forms of genital mutilation, some living adjacent to each other. And snipping is also practiced in Islam, which encompasses multiple nationalities.
“Shibboleth” was used in a battle between the Gileadites and the Ephramites. Both Israelite, both circumcised.
And Islam didn’t exist in the old testament time; they are also an Abrahamic religion.
I always laugh at this argument, because there’s a more amusing argument. Yeah, it’s Israel’s land and they’re G-d’s chosen people. But multiple times in the Bible G-d has taken that land from them and even had them enslaved by nearby nations! At this point in the mythos, G-d, the Messiah, has yet to reveal himself. He’s still in silence lol So, based on all that, it sounds like Israel needs to take some responsibility for what they do.
The Israelites in the bible never took responsibility except for when they were forced to.
Modern Israel doesn’t have any prophets. Looks like someone else is gonna have to hold them accountable.
“God” aint the lord’s name, and even if you diduse his name, it wouldnt be in vain here, you good.
I was just gonna edit my post, and say this, but I think it’s worthy as it’s own post. I like how you bring up “in vain”, because it’s something I detest in the western Christian church mythos. they consider using G-d’s name to be in vain whenever you say it out of the context of evangelism, almost. When, in fact, the use of in vain, is using G-d’s name to justifying your crimes, is using Their name in vain. It’s a pretty neat distinction in the Ancient Hebrew, that western Christianity has conveniently forgot. Thanks, Rome!
Thanks! I’m still gonna do it, because it’s something a part of my life and spiritual journey! It really got started when I started listening to mewothoutYou and I really started looking at all religions more critically. I’ve ended up in a strange place, close to Samsara about it all lol.
Edit: In hindsight, “I’m still gonna do it” came out worse than I intended. I meant it more passive and sheepish, than cavalier.
And worrying about the appropriate nomenclature for mythical figures is an idle pastime.
It’s not that I worry about it, it’s a part of me. It’s not something that I even really think about anymore, I just write it inherently. I actually had a wonderfully, rich conversation with a friend about it recently.
Thanks for asking if that’s something I worry about instead of belittling me!
You can write god. Nothing happens. You look like a fool.
Thanks for the advice! I will still write G-d out because I like it and it’s a part of my spiritual journey! I’m very big into Samsara and I really like the Hebrew tradition of not writing out G-d’s name from holiness and not wanting to destroy it!
I appreciate you asking why I do it, instead of just calling me a fool with no prior knowledge of me as a person. That could’ve really hurt my feelings and put a damper on my day, so I appreciate all your kind words!