I have no idea why people are just taking those numbers at face value.
Any Americans in this thread, have any of you ever been polled about anything regarding any of this? I know I sure haven’t. I wish they would poll me, I got an awful lot of opinions for these mfers.
Trump and his associated hangers-on have a long and storied history of pulling numbers directly out of their asses. It perplexes me that anyone takes anything the government says right now at face value.
Deep south checking in. His approval rating locally is probably above 90%, because the vast majority of people here are hateful, spiteful, self-defeating morons.
When you see national averages, remember things like Alabama’s healthcare, or Oklahoma’s education system, etc are there dragging everyone else down.
Sure, let me just take a look at the board of directors… Gonna take a look at Reggie Van Lee, right at the top… Check open secrets on his consulting firm aaaand:
National Republican Congressional Cmte $71k, 2024
Hmmmmm… Well at least theres also thousands of dollars going to establishment Dems earlier on.
But that’s just a board member. They’ll be absolved by the clients listed in their testimonials. Surely it’s the good guys filling their bank accounts?
Southwest Airlines: Top contributions go to Trump (by a mile), Susan Collins, Ted Cruz, the RNC etc…
Estée Lauder: Wow! I’m seeing top contributions totaling $3 million+ to the RNC, Keystone Renewal PAC, Senate leadership fund, and 3-4 other sketchy conservative funds.
NFU Mutual: One of the top 5% groups for spend. $1 mil in contribution and even more in lobbying in 2024, a sea of red support…
Mercedes Benz: The same one slobbering over Trump’s tariffs? 😂
Enterprise Mobility: 2/3 of their PAC donations end up in Republican coffers…
I’ll give them credit, they show a lot of non-profits and schools-for-poor-orphans to signal how woke they are, but those clients aren’t the whales that keep the lights on. You think they’re tearing up those big checks when push comes to shove?
As Carlin once said, it’s a big club and we ain’t in it.
Assuming all of that is actually true, yeah that’s not good. So you’re saying they’re fudging the numbers then? Even when that ~40% figure was attained by multiple independent polls from all over the spectrum?
(Also protip: it’s easy to provoke someone into doing better research for you)
That 40% is what makes me think a 2nd American Civil War is needed. The festering wound that is the Confederacy still lingers in America, and needs to be cleaned with a thorough Reconstruction.
We have Nazis on the streets of Minneapolis, going door to door asking about Asians. The odds of those bastards stopping peacefully is pretty damn unlikely.
You have no idea what a civil war even is. Truly go read and learn about historical civil wars in modern times. I think you’re just some edgy teen who spends way too much time online. Violence occurring is one thing, but a civil war is a complete different thing.
Dude. I read an awfully lot of history, watched the entirety of Ken Burn’s Civil War and Vietnam series, read over 1,500+ pages of Larry Gonick’s Cartoon History, listened to many episodes of Dan Carlin, and Behind the Bastards.
You have a different viewpoint from me, that war is bad and nasty. That is fair. But you are attacking me as a person, and reveal your colors: someone who can’t handle the idea that someone else has a different reasoning and perspective about the world. You are trying to infantize me.
I know that the odds of my death are probable if a 2nd American Civil War happens, as I intend to serve as an infantryman or whatever role is needed. But you know what? It is worth dying over, because I don’t want the latter half of my life to be ruled by the likes of Thiel, nor do I wish to die in RFK’s “wellness” camps. As a minority, I intend to live decently, and die on my terms.
I’m glad you’ve listened to those podcasts and stuff, I love Carlin’s Hardcore History and also BtB (also check out It Could Happen Here). Then you should know the level of death and suffering you’re calling for, for massive amounts of people that will have nothing to do with anything. Babies, elderly, sick, many of them will die due to infrastructure and logistics issues, water and power losses due to attacks, etc. Massive emigration and refugees all over the world, but mostly to Canada and Mexico, leading to way more international issues.
If you want to die for a cause, go do something that you think will make a difference (though I don’t think that’s the best idea), but don’t call for the deaths of millions of innocent bystanders. There can be limited violence and not an all out civil war. I hope there’s no or as little violence as possible, but I think anyone following anything can see which way it’s going. However a civil war is never needed.
I think a civil war is nearly inevitable, thus I want my side to prepare, both mentally and materially. That can be domestic service, states making compacts and foreign treaties, the stockpiling of goods and arms, or offering one’s body in the line of combat.
I have no useful skills, so my blood will have to do.
Fuck no. You are telling me to bury my head in the sand and ignore reality. You are welcome to ignore the world around you, but don’t ask me to carry water for your sanewashing.
Yeah, no. Those numbers are just wrong. And not only that, in this bright red state, maga hats and signs and stickers are disappearing pretty rapidly. The exact same people who wanted all the rest of us “snowflakes” to fuck our feelings and know exactly what they stood for are now disappearing back into the woodwork hoping we don’t remember what they stood for.
The fact that his approval rating is FORTY FUCKING PERCENT is absolutely crazy. Makes me so sad for my fellow human.
I have no idea why people are just taking those numbers at face value.
Any Americans in this thread, have any of you ever been polled about anything regarding any of this? I know I sure haven’t. I wish they would poll me, I got an awful lot of opinions for these mfers.
Trump and his associated hangers-on have a long and storied history of pulling numbers directly out of their asses. It perplexes me that anyone takes anything the government says right now at face value.
Deep south checking in. His approval rating locally is probably above 90%, because the vast majority of people here are hateful, spiteful, self-defeating morons.
When you see national averages, remember things like Alabama’s healthcare, or Oklahoma’s education system, etc are there dragging everyone else down.
No, it’s third party, independent polling firms that do it. Of course I wouldn’t trust anything this regime says directly.
Don’t ask who signs their paychecks, what other media outlets they own and what PACs they contribute to
OH MY GOD you’re right, Gallup Polling is funded and owned by Trump himself!!!
…no, it’s not, go look it up for yourself
Sure, let me just take a look at the board of directors… Gonna take a look at Reggie Van Lee, right at the top… Check open secrets on his consulting firm aaaand:
Hmmmmm… Well at least theres also thousands of dollars going to establishment Dems earlier on.
But that’s just a board member. They’ll be absolved by the clients listed in their testimonials. Surely it’s the good guys filling their bank accounts?
Southwest Airlines: Top contributions go to Trump (by a mile), Susan Collins, Ted Cruz, the RNC etc…
Estée Lauder: Wow! I’m seeing top contributions totaling $3 million+ to the RNC, Keystone Renewal PAC, Senate leadership fund, and 3-4 other sketchy conservative funds.
NFU Mutual: One of the top 5% groups for spend. $1 mil in contribution and even more in lobbying in 2024, a sea of red support…
Mercedes Benz: The same one slobbering over Trump’s tariffs? 😂
Enterprise Mobility: 2/3 of their PAC donations end up in Republican coffers…
I’ll give them credit, they show a lot of non-profits and schools-for-poor-orphans to signal how woke they are, but those clients aren’t the whales that keep the lights on. You think they’re tearing up those big checks when push comes to shove?
As Carlin once said, it’s a big club and we ain’t in it.
Assuming all of that is actually true, yeah that’s not good. So you’re saying they’re fudging the numbers then? Even when that ~40% figure was attained by multiple independent polls from all over the spectrum?
(Also protip: it’s easy to provoke someone into doing better research for you)
That 40% is what makes me think a 2nd American Civil War is needed. The festering wound that is the Confederacy still lingers in America, and needs to be cleaned with a thorough Reconstruction.
Either Russian/Chinese/American bot or agitator, or incredibly stupid.
No, a second civil war isn’t needed. What the fuck are you even saying. Or you might be like 14 years old and not know how anything works.
We have Nazis on the streets of Minneapolis, going door to door asking about Asians. The odds of those bastards stopping peacefully is pretty damn unlikely.
You have no idea what a civil war even is. Truly go read and learn about historical civil wars in modern times. I think you’re just some edgy teen who spends way too much time online. Violence occurring is one thing, but a civil war is a complete different thing.
Dude. I read an awfully lot of history, watched the entirety of Ken Burn’s Civil War and Vietnam series, read over 1,500+ pages of Larry Gonick’s Cartoon History, listened to many episodes of Dan Carlin, and Behind the Bastards.
You have a different viewpoint from me, that war is bad and nasty. That is fair. But you are attacking me as a person, and reveal your colors: someone who can’t handle the idea that someone else has a different reasoning and perspective about the world. You are trying to infantize me.
I know that the odds of my death are probable if a 2nd American Civil War happens, as I intend to serve as an infantryman or whatever role is needed. But you know what? It is worth dying over, because I don’t want the latter half of my life to be ruled by the likes of Thiel, nor do I wish to die in RFK’s “wellness” camps. As a minority, I intend to live decently, and die on my terms.
I’m glad you’ve listened to those podcasts and stuff, I love Carlin’s Hardcore History and also BtB (also check out It Could Happen Here). Then you should know the level of death and suffering you’re calling for, for massive amounts of people that will have nothing to do with anything. Babies, elderly, sick, many of them will die due to infrastructure and logistics issues, water and power losses due to attacks, etc. Massive emigration and refugees all over the world, but mostly to Canada and Mexico, leading to way more international issues.
If you want to die for a cause, go do something that you think will make a difference (though I don’t think that’s the best idea), but don’t call for the deaths of millions of innocent bystanders. There can be limited violence and not an all out civil war. I hope there’s no or as little violence as possible, but I think anyone following anything can see which way it’s going. However a civil war is never needed.
I think a civil war is nearly inevitable, thus I want my side to prepare, both mentally and materially. That can be domestic service, states making compacts and foreign treaties, the stockpiling of goods and arms, or offering one’s body in the line of combat.
I have no useful skills, so my blood will have to do.
Also: go outside for a bit, go volunteer at a Food Not Bombs or something. Get offline.
Fuck no. You are telling me to bury my head in the sand and ignore reality. You are welcome to ignore the world around you, but don’t ask me to carry water for your sanewashing.
I don’t know where you got all of that, I didn’t say any of that
Yes, that’s by far the most troubling part of all this - that 150 million Americans are on board with it.
Yeah, no. Those numbers are just wrong. And not only that, in this bright red state, maga hats and signs and stickers are disappearing pretty rapidly. The exact same people who wanted all the rest of us “snowflakes” to fuck our feelings and know exactly what they stood for are now disappearing back into the woodwork hoping we don’t remember what they stood for.