In a statement, the White House told the BBC that Trump had made clear that acquiring Greenland was a “national security priority”.

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    Do you seriously think fascism is a result of voter apathy? Voter apathy is a result of fascism.

    The path we’re on now was paved by James Monroe. This is the only logical conclusion to the American political experiment. I encourage you to try to understand these stories under a context that goes further back than 2 years.

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      Yeah. I don’t give a shit.

      trump was a known evil. This wasn’t 2016 with “ha ha ha, maybe the reality tv star will be fun”. He led a fucking violent insurrection and was campaigning on hate.

      I don’t fucking care how sad folk were that they didn’t get the candidate they wanted. By not voting they effectively voted for trump and the entire fucking world is suffering for it.

      Own up to it.

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        trump was a known evil.

        So why did democrats do jack shit to prepare? Why did Biden do absolutely nothing for 4 years to protect against a fascist descent that was rocketing towards us at mach 10? Why did democrats decide that perpetrating a genocide in Palestine meant more than winning a monumental election?

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          Why do democrats need to earn your fucking vote against a rapist who led a violent insurrection against the us government? Because clearly trump already did. I mean, sure, he TOTALLY had a much better platform for how to minimize the harm to the Palestinian people. He’ll give them jobs in his hotel!

          Really showing your ass there. What next. Is it Hilary Clinton’s fault you didn’t vote? Could she have done better to make you care about a rapist warmonger?

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            Why do democrats need to earn your fucking vote

            Because thats… how representative democracy works?

            You are taking the position right now that America’s descent into fascism can be attributed to Muslim and Arab Americans in Dearborn who decided not to vote for Kamala after she promised to kill their brothers and sisters in Palestine and Lebanon with an extraordinarily “lethal military”. These people are the true fascists, according to you.

            Once again, I encourage you to try to understand history in a context that goes back more than two years.

            What we are seeing now is not a new brand of Trumpist imperialism; instead, we are seeing textbook American Imperialism. It’s as American as apple pie.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monroe_Doctrine

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scramble_for_Africa

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish–American_War

            I get it. The liberal perspective is not easily palatable right now. In the east, youre getting your lunch eaten by communists who are quickly rising to become the world leader. In the west, fascist elements are eating your lunch as they gain massive ground from Austria to Germany to Britain. And so you flail. You flail to try to understand how this is happening. The liberal philosophy purports that the wheels of history and progress are always moving forward, so what gives? How are we going backwards? Could it be that two hundred years of withered social safety nets, deteriorating education, evasive retirement, withheld wages, weak representation, crumbling infrastructure and transportation, and rampant voter disenfranchisement? No… it is the western communists and Russian bots that are to blame. America has always been wholesome big chungus, and Trump is simply a minor glitch that we will soon find ourselves free from once he dies, and everything can go back to normal.

            Get real, friend. The communists and leftists are your only way out of this one. The same folks, who, by the way, have been warning for nearly 200 years that the American political experiment was doomed to descend into fascism.

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              You are taking the position right now that America’s descent into fascism can be attributed to Muslim and Arab Americans in Dearborn who decided not to vote for Kamala after she promised to kill their brothers and sisters in Palestine and Lebanon with an extraordinarily “lethal military”. These people are the true fascists, according to you.

              As opposed to trump who outright called Biden a “Palestinian” as an insult and accused other ethnic groups of “eating cats”?

              But hey, sure. They hated Kamala because she was associated with Biden who “good Palestinian” aside, has always been a racist asshole across his entire political career.

              Can you, or anyone else, say that they honestly expected trump to be better for the Palestinian people than Kamala and Biden (who wasn’t even running…)? Again, he outright called Biden a “Palestinian” as an insult.

              So, at the VERY best, you are looking at two candidates who are equally horrible for one group. And then you look at anything else and realize trump is MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH worse for basically everyone else on top of that.

              So… yeah. I do fucking blame the Arab Americans and anyone else who decided to sit out the election (and effectively give trump their votes). Because, at the very best, they were doing the same knee jerk “someone else” voting that got trump elected in 2016.

              And, in the process, they actively harmed the people they claim to care about. Let alone everyone else.

              And I’ll ignore the rest that mostly makes it clear you don’t give a fuck about Palestine and are just puppeting tankie talking points where “accelerationism is good because Reasons”

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                I do fucking blame the Arab Americans

                they actively harmed the people they claim to care about

                Pretty fucked up and callous thing to say. I give it a year before you’re calling ICE on “tankies”.

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              I think there are a lot more liberals who have leftist ideology who don’t know it. I’m finding that out more and more each day.

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      voter apathy is a result of fascism

      I’m sorry, but that’s the dumbest shit I’ve read today.

      Fascist societies don’t allow voting at all, so how can voter apathy be a result of fascism, when the country isn’t there yet?