Just because a person eats animals and uses animal products doesn’t mean they don’t respect them.
I prefer leather over its alternatives, as leather is a side product from the beef industry, so we use more of the animal. It’s worse now that cars come with vinyl seats (“vegan leather”) using petrochemicals and industrial products instead of the skin of an animal that was being killed anyway
If a person both abuses and “respects” animals, they necessarily have to compartmentalize and maim themselves to accomplish that.
“Using more of the animal” doesn’t change the morality of it. Like fuck, some nazis made lamp shades out of human skin, does that make the murder of those people less tragic?? The fact that you can even think in these terms shows how disturbed and warped your thinking is. How far from reality you have to keep your thoughts in order to maintain your view that you are a good person who respects animals.
THIS is EXACTLY what I mean when I say it is FUCKING CREEPY when carnists talk about animal abuse.
So in the 80’s they had to have laws because cattle was being killed just for leather (which I believe was mostly in brazil where rain forest was being cut down for grazeland). As much beef as we eat it would not support all fake leather things being done as leather.
Just because a person eats animals and uses animal products doesn’t mean they don’t respect them.
I prefer leather over its alternatives, as leather is a side product from the beef industry, so we use more of the animal. It’s worse now that cars come with vinyl seats (“vegan leather”) using petrochemicals and industrial products instead of the skin of an animal that was being killed anyway
If a person both abuses and “respects” animals, they necessarily have to compartmentalize and maim themselves to accomplish that.
“Using more of the animal” doesn’t change the morality of it. Like fuck, some nazis made lamp shades out of human skin, does that make the murder of those people less tragic?? The fact that you can even think in these terms shows how disturbed and warped your thinking is. How far from reality you have to keep your thoughts in order to maintain your view that you are a good person who respects animals.
THIS is EXACTLY what I mean when I say it is FUCKING CREEPY when carnists talk about animal abuse.
So in the 80’s they had to have laws because cattle was being killed just for leather (which I believe was mostly in brazil where rain forest was being cut down for grazeland). As much beef as we eat it would not support all fake leather things being done as leather.
Indeed. Beef prices tell me they’re not the loss leader product, and leather is cheap, so I don’t think that’s a problem now
but again it has been and you mention cars using leather. Without the leather alernatives it very much would be a problem.