Thoughts?

Is this imperialism by China, a country which is supposed to be left-wing? Leftists are normally anti-imperialism. Wouldn’t it be better to let Taiwan democratically decide whether they want to be part of China or not?

    • ms.lane@lemmy.world
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      6 hours ago

      They don’t care about damaging things now.

      Almost all of TSMC’s output is now powering US’ Stargate AI project. They also have their own fabs, they have equivalent to TSMC fabs (from stolen TSMC research) in larger numbers - the only reason we don’t see it flooding the market here in the west is that TSMC got injunctions against all the Chinese fabs selling 7nm and smaller chips.

      If TSMC is gone and Intel+Samsung can’t keep up, then those injunctions are going to disappear pretty quickly to keep the economy rolling.

      TSMC is no longer a card Taiwan holds, largely due to corporate greed.

      • Avid Amoeba@lemmy.ca
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        The latest info we have says they don’t have the equivalent high end chip prod yet but they’re closing in. What you’re describing would likely be the reality within several years. That said I think it’s not in China’s interest to take Taiwan by force since they’d have to live with it. It’ll also do enormous damage to their soft power.

      • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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        5 hours ago

        Except that was a peaceful process, not an invasion/annexation. Because part of Taiwan’s strategic defense policy is “we will melt our chip fabs to slag if the PRC invades”. Thus, they hold a gun to the head of pretty much all of the most advanced chip fabrication in the world, which most of the rest of the world has a vested interest in keeping working.

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          Except that was a peaceful process, not an invasion/annexation

          The only invasion I’m seeing is US Navy vessels encircling the island and threatening their economy.

          they hold a gun to the head of pretty much all of the most advanced chip fabrication in the world

          That’s been the American line for going on ten years. But the real gun has always been the Pacific Fleet, threatening to repeat the crimes of Vietnam on Chinese civilians, much like they did in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and now Venezuela and Nigeria.

          • erzdt@piefed.social
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            3 hours ago

            The only invasion I’m seeing is US Navy vessels encircling the island and threatening their economy.

            Saying this on the same day that Chinese warships encircled Taiwan.