China launched its most extensive war games around Taiwan on Monday to showcase Beijing’s ability to cut off the island from outside support in a conflict, testing Taipei’s resolve to defend itself and its arsenal of U.S.-made weapons.

The Eastern Theatre Command said it had deployed troops, warships, fighter jets and artillery for its “Justice Mission 2025” exercises to encircle the democratically governed island, conduct live fire and simulated strikes on land and sea targets, and drills to blockade Taiwan’s main ports.

The live-firing exercises will continue on Tuesday across a record seven zones designated by China’s Maritime Safety Administration, making the drills the largest to date by total coverage and in areas closer to Taiwan than previous exercises. The military had initially said artillery firing would be confined to five zones.

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      Estonia in this case is comparable to Taiwan. I.e. a small country trying to increase their capabilities to defend against tyrant Russia.

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        Oh, so you support North Korea’s military expenditure to protect itself from the USA? Should Cuba buy $11bn in military armament to defend itself from tyrant USA? You also rightfully support Hamas in its defense against Israel?

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            The USA has carried out a massive military deployment next to Venezuela, which has Caribbean waters, and has started murdering civilians and even attacks on mainland Venezuela. Do you really think Cuba or North Korea have fewer reasons to be afraid of USA invasion than Taiwan does of China, the latter not having participated in armed conflict in over 3 decades? The USA is actively carrying out military exercises in the Korean Peninsula.

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              Are you trying to portray Trump foreign policy as the norm for the US while also comparing it to Russia/China’s consistent imperialism over decades?

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                What an absolutely uneducated take. China hasn’t taken military action since more than 3 decades ago, whereas the USA in the 21st century alone has warred in Afghanistan, Yemen, Iraq, Libya, Syria and many more. Please tell me one single event of “Chinese imperialism” in the last 30 years that remotely compares to the USA invasion of Iraq.

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                  You named countries where wildly varying forms of US military action were taken for different reasons, most of those being justified and legally backed, none for purposes along the lines of annexation/subjugation. You think China’s bullying of Taiwan (seeking annexation), Philippines…doesn’t constitute imperialism because they haven’t pulled the trigger yet? Uyghurotta be kidding me

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                    “The USA invasion of Iraq was justified” is not a take I thought I’d be seeing on Lemmy tbh. I will now disengage, won’t get anything from someone who thinks that the hundreds of thousands of murdered in Iraq were justified.

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          Are you mentally ill or something? That was a defensive exercise and this has nothing to do with race.

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            Are you mentally ill or something?

            No need to go to ableism. I’m aware you don’t consciously think that Chinese people are bad, but in your worldview, any military exercise or defense expenditure done by non-west-aligned nations is intrinsically evil. This is rooted, again subconsciously, on white supremacism (or its less explicit brands: eurocentrism and american exceptionalism).

            So, China’s military exercise done, according to the article, in response to an $11bn purchase of weapons to the USA by Taiwan, is not defensive in nature?

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              That is completely untrue. Even Russia conducts its exercises mostly professionally and I don’t object.

              If you think what China is doing is a defensive exercise, you are so biased that you are unable to see reality. They are encircling sovereign territory and practicing for a land invasion and blockade to subjugate the Taiwanese people and steal their land. I would like to hear your explanation for how https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLA_Navy_landing_barges are defensive in nature.

              The weapons that Taiwan has purchased is a direct response to Chinese imperialism, aggression, and threats. Taiwan is not threatening Chinese people, but the opposite is not true.

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      Why is it that talkies are having a very hard time understanding a difference between training to invade vs training to defend?

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        From the article itself:

        The exercises began 11 days after the U.S. announced $11.1 billion in arms sales to Taiwan

        How is China the aggressor here? Imagine if Cuba suddenly imported $11bn in weapons from Russia, do you think that would warrant no reaction from the US administration?

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          Are you worried Taiwan is going to invade Beijing? Is chinas army that incompetent?

          I mean, it would be cool if they did but I don’t think even corrupt Chinese generals are that worthless.

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            No, I’m not worried Taiwan is going to invade Beijing. I’m worried that the USA will attempt to put in place a seafare blockade against China together with the puppet nations of Japan, South Korea and Taiwan, attempting to generate a casus belli for China against either of them and to manufacture another Ukraine but in the Chinese Sea.

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          Whoever is trying to capture territory from the other side is the invader by definition, putting the other side on the defence, as per definition.

          Are you saying Estonia wants to invade Russia? Dude’s clown costume’s made from diamonds

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            Oh, sorry, I forgot, when did China invade Taiwan? Or anyone for that matter, since China hasn’t participated in a single war in 40 years.

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              Expansionism can happen without official war declaration, but still a conflict. See: Tibet, Honk Kong, parts of Mongolia

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                You mean the Taiwanese claim over such territories? I agree, it’s disgusting

                Thank God the PRC liberated Hong Kong from British colonial rule!

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                  This is delusional and you know it. Some obsolete map you pulled out from history and somehow trying to present it as a valid argument. Taiwan just wants to be independant, they don’t want to start conquering Asia, take the pills.

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                    The “obsolete” map, pulled from Wikipedia, is the territorial claims of the Republic of china as of 30th of December of 2025, definitely not obsolete.

                    As for the identity of Taiwanese people, you’re very sure of something that’s hugely polemical within Taiwan:

                    The manufacturing of a Taiwanese identity is fairly recent as you can see, and still many people feel both Chinese and Taiwanese.

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            Taiwan was never a separate country from the rest of China. It’s only being separated because America wants it separated. A divided China is a weaker China.

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              A divided China is a weaker China

              This honestly feels like mental illness. Imagine rapist screaming at the victim “I can’t get stronger unless we unite” while threatening to kill her.

              Dude, get over it, Taiwan has moved on, they have their separate lives and don’t want anything to do with China, just like Ukraine (who was part of Soviet union) does not want Russia and will likely result in a long and costly war. I too would go guerilla of someone tried to invade my country.

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              CCP didn’t take it when the current Taiwan gov moved there, they only took the mainland.

              That’s literally the definition of how countries split in two

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                The countries have not split into two. It’s still one country.

                Both ROC and PROC agree on this.

                Only America wants to break them apart because they can make Taiwan a vassal state similar to how they broke Korea apart and make South Korea a vassal state of the American empire.

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                  Congratulations you’re Mongolian (or Roman or British)

                  Do you have any idea how many countries do the same thing yet are considered different countries? Russia insists Ukraine is part of them (for incoherent historical reasons), you have the European east block, plenty of countries named East X versus West X.

                  You even mentioned Korea yourself where both insists they’re one country but the whole world understands there’s 2 separate countries claiming the same territory but each with control of separate subsets of that territory, and they de facto operate as separate countries. Considering the opposing government as illegitimate doesn’t negate its existence.

                  Your worldview is incoherent.

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                  They so not agree on this, stop watching CCP propaganda. CCP is the only one pushing for this in the entire world with some allies like Russia simply backing it up. This is an imperialism move and you know it.