• lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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    idk if it matters, but there is the nuance that russia and Ukraine were friends once and russia backstabbed them, while palestine and israel never were friends and it’s a smoldering conflict with 80 years of atrocities on both sides, that now escalated into this new dimension of a shitshow.

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      People of all religions used to coexist in the area before the Brits declared they were in charge and segregation was a good idea.

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        Jews did not have equal rights in the Jerusalem Sanjak until the Ottoman Reform Edict of 1856.

        Before that you had things like the 1847 ethnic cleansing of Jews in Jerusalem, or the 1834 looting of Safed.

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            Also this goal post moving back when we talk about something happening today is stupid. If the Ottoman had a rule that they live together then we can assume that has nothing to do with the UK Shipping Jewish and Zionist from Europe to peaceful country.

            First sucide bomber was Christian, First terrorists group is what today called IDF. People from these generation still alive today. And this why this is not “Jew vs Arab” this is “Zionist vs Palestinians”

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      The both sides argument ignores the difference in scale. Palestinian atrocities are on the scale or killing a family or blowing up a bus, while Israeli atrocities are more on the massacring a village or blowing up a 100 member family to oblivion level.