Online pornography showing strangulation or suffocation is to be made illegal, as part of government plans to tackle violence against women and girls.

It follows a review which found depictions of choking were “rife” on mainstream porn sites and had helped normalise the act among young people.

Both the possession and publication of such material will be a criminal offence, under amendments to the Crime and Policing Bill currently going through Parliament.

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    19 hours ago

    Well, where are all those deaths caused by choking during sex because of porn? I would bet that many more visits to er are caused by trying to emulate the sex in the bath tube while having a couple wine glasses around scenes so typical in ‘romantic’ movies/shows, than by all the kinks seen in porn together.

    Parents should, and I’m aware many do, tell their children that tv, movies, porn… are meant to entertain, not teach, and they are very different from how real life things work.

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      Exactly what I wondered when this was brought up 6 months ago!

      https://vger.to/lemmy.world/comment/16311493

      This article is feeling kind of clickbaitish, as the sources are … odd.

      However, restricting blood flow to the brain can also have serious health implications.

      While not all pressure on the neck will be fatal, research shows even relatively low pressure can cause death by strangulation.

      The first source is a medical journal describing the physiology of the arteries in the neck, and does not seem to include anything about restricting blood flow (never mind temporarily) having serious health consequences.

      The second source is a book from 1991 about autoerotic asphyxiation with the quote:

      autoerotic asphyxia denotes death resulting from failure of a release mechanism of the device, apparatus or prop designed to attain cerebral hypoxia for heightened arousal.

      Which is … not the same as doing this with someone, and doesn’t address the risks of a partner who releases pressure immediately after a loss of consciousness.

      The issues around consent are troubling indeed, consent should always be paramount.

      I also found it amusing that the beginning of the article said

      Although rare, strangulation is the leading cause of death in consensual BDSM play.

      Which links to a study that found a total of 16 cases that included strangulation between 1982 and 2020. Rare indeed.

      My husband and I dabble in breath play, so I was curious and read a few studies myself. It seems that every case study I could find included atypical circumstances. Things like accidental hanging, or asphyxiation due to bags etc being over the head.

      This paper includes a 50 year review of cases for anyone interested. https://benthamopen.com/contents/pdf/TOFORSJ/TOFORSJ-1-1.pdf

      It is also worth noting that loss of consciousness due to cutting off blood flow to the brain (cerebral hypoxia) is not dissimilar to the hypoxia experienced by pilots, who even train with repeated exposure to hypoxia in hyperbaric chambers.

      I would be curious to know if there were any studies of the long term effects of this on pilots. (My dive into the rabbit hole is done for the day, lol.)

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      You can read about the deaths in the Wikipedia article on the topic. Just because there are other mishaps during sex that also lead to injuries and/or death, that doesn’t invalidate concerns over this method as it even more directly can be shown to be problematic than accidents occurring due to other causes. Never mind the other possible life-altering outcomes such as brain damage.

      We all know that the success rate of parents telling their teens anything can be wildly unpredictable. Often, it can even be a motivator to try to do the exact opposite of what their parents recommend. As such, that’s not really a reliable method of addressing the issue.

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        That article only cites deaths due to autoerotic asphyxiation, which I haven’t seen or heard portrayed in porn, and says that are mostly men, which contradicts the stated objective of preventing harm to women. Have you even read the source you linked or the article, mate?

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          No, it mentions both, “mate.” Just because you like that act doesn’t mean the concerns are warrantless/unjustified, and if you were truly objectively thinking about it then you wouldn’t be denying that fact.

          I’m done arguing this. We’ve both said our pieces. Just because I’m not an expert ready and armed with documented facts doesn’t mean I don’t have a valid point. You don’t like it, TFB - go argue it with the lawmakers because I’m done with this childishness.