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Multiple walkie talkies explode in Lebanon at funeral for those killed in pager attack: State media

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Multiple walkie talkies explode in Lebanon at funeral for those killed in pager attack: State media

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20 more dead, 450 injured as new round of explosions rocks Lebanon: Health officials
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At least 20 more people were killed and 450 injured in Lebanon on Wednesday after a series of new explosions of wireless devices rocked the South, the Bekaa and the southern suburbs of Beirut, according to the Ministry of Health and the Lebanese Red Cross.
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    The stuff is blowing up inside stores and buildings around innocent people. How is that targeted? Israel doesn’t give 2 shits about innocent people being injured and possibly killed.

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      It’s still a million times better than dropping a thousand pound bomb on a refugee camp to take out 1 hamas guy, and that’s at least commendable.

      It’s worse that they’re blowing up people in a country they’re not openly at war with, stirring shit and risking even more retaliation.

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        Bombing Refugee camps is not commendable

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        Being better than war crime is not commendable if you’re still at terrorism. Just because they’ve done horrible shit before doesn’t mean slightly less horrendous shit should be remarked upon and punished.

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        So like killing a “handful” of Israeli civilians would be “exceptionally good” if the target was a bunch of IDF reservists?

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          I mean, yeah. The tragic answer is that civilian casualties are inevitable in war, unfortunately.

          According to a UN meeting from 2022, 90% of war casualties globally are civilians. That’s not to say that’s an acceptable ratio, in fact it’s horrifying, but it does show that a ratio of “a handful” to “a bunch” is quite a lot better than the average.

          https://press.un.org/en/2022/sc14904.doc.htm

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          It’s never good, but when Hezbollah chose to restart the violence they knew it was never going to be without collateral

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            Israel has been massing forces on the Lebanon border and saying they will invade for months now. At what point is the Lebanese government allowed to defend itself?

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              Israel and Hezbollah have always had forces on the border staring at eachother.

              After Hezbollah broke that status quo, Israel has been threatening to invade if they didn’t stop.

              Can you explain why you’re blaming Israel for responding more than Hesbollah for starting it?

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                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli–Lebanese_conflict this article clearly contradicts your statement. And it doesn’t help that Israel is also illegally occupying part of Lebanon either.

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                  Which of my statements is contradicted by this?

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            Ahistorical

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                Argue the opposite and surf the wave of dialectic to the truth.

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        Traditionally, a targeted attack minimizes collateral damage to almost zero. Do you have stats on who was killed/injured? I do know 2 children were killed. I’m sure they were hard-core Hezbollah.

        Doing this kind of attack indicates Israel didn’t care AT ALL who they took out. Ah, much like their reactions in Gaza.

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            Wow only 2 dead children. Amazing, let’s celebrate!

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                I’m glad we can punish the children of criminals for their parents’ crimes.

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                    Ah, so we’re allowed to do anything bad to someone if their parents do it first?

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            Are you both siding this shit? Let me be clear, Hezbollah, Hamas AND Israel each have done awful things to innocent civilians in the name of revenge. How hard is it to say enough is enough and want innocent civilian populations ON ALL SIDES to not die? Children born into these situations, and many adults have zero opportunities to get away from the violence. They should not die due to factions and government decisions.

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        https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule80 you know International laws exist for a reason, and Israel clearly violated many international laws, which by the way were created to prevent such events like WWII.

        You know Israel can find a peaceful solution if it only permits the establishment of an independent state of Palestine. But instead they prefer to continue their warmongering politics.

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            You think that’s some kind of gotcha. It isn’t.

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                The unsaid implication of your loaded question is that the absence of a Palestinian state is “the fault of the Palestinians”. The further implication is that “Israel has no partner for peace” even now. Basically, the implication being we need to keep doing whatever the Israeli right wants in perpetuity.

                If by some miracle you’re not just parroting right wing pro-Israeli talking points, please elaborate what the hell you mean with your question instead.

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                    Nice word salad. If you want people to learn more, say that (ideally also pointing to specific resources) instead of derailing discussions with open ended loaded questions.

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                    I already debunked this to you in another thread

                    https://lemmy.world/comment/12431134

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            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

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                Why Jews didn’t forgive Nazis in 1946?!?

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                    On a land that didn’t belong to them. And in the process killed 15000 Palestinians and expelled 750.000 to create their dream ethno state. Prior to 1900 very few Jews were living there and the local population was mostly Arabs.

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