The UN is multiple entities some have executive power some does. ICJ can’t do anything concrete so they can be blamed for not yet admitting there is a genocide yet but not for failling to stop the genocide. A commision job is to investigate, find a conclusion which they did, it is the un country members who has the power to stop the genocide
What the fuck?? We expect them to uphold their obligations under the genocide convention that all agreed to, mobilize their troops to engage the Israeli genocidal army and end the genocide.
No faith in them doing anything after two years of live streamed genocide, but I expect them to do more than the bare minimum that Spain is starting to do now.
The UN does not have “troops”. UN peacekeepers are members of the armed forces of member states and are deployed at the behest of the Security Council. Why then would you blame the UN as an organisation for not sending in military personnel, when the fault lies in the members and, especially those who would veto any such action?
Jesus Christ, you’re gonna pedantically argue semantics in a conversation about stopping active genocide?
The United NATIONS, as the name implies, is an intergovernmental organization of NATIONS. We don’t expect António Guterres to personally arrest Netanyahu as the other pedantic comment mocked, we expect the governments that make up the UN to uphold their obligations, or failing that, for their people to hold their governments responsible.
Apathy rules, unfortunately, and when the Nazis come for you, there won’t be anyone left to hear you say “actually, the UN does not have “troops” to save me”.
I’m gonna be as pedantic as I ever am, yeah, because boring moaning about the UN is misguided and seeps into society.
When people make fun of the UN for “writing a strongly worded letter” that is a missed opportunity to criticise national governments, especially that of the USA, who are the ones with actual actions they can take, Israel itself notwithstanding.
Apathy rules, unfortunately, and when the Nazis come for you, there won’t be anyone left to hear you say “actually, the UN does not have “troops” to save me”.
Do you think whingeing about the UN would have saved me, or else what are you even trying to say here?
We aren’t whining about the UN, we’re talking about the nations that make it up. You’re choosing to redirect the discussion to the UN specifically just to derail the conversation.
Thank you for the lesson no one was confused about, thank you for clarifying that the UN itself has no troops, despite me not making that claim in the first place. I repeat my expectation that the Nations needs to mobilize their troops to meet their obligations under the genocide convention to which they are party, which cannot reasonably be misinterpreted as the UN itself. I even named a nation explicitly that is finally doing something effective (Spain), but do go on.
I think what I’m saying is very clear, you’re shrugging your shoulders and saying “what can we do, the UN has no power” instead of recognizing the failure of UN member nations to actually do something. You’re apathetic to genocide and hide it behind pedantry and self-righteousness.
First they came for the communists, and all that. Palestine won’t be the end, and when you find your own people the target of the Nazis, you’ll have no one left asking their nations to intervene so you can twist their words into an irrelevant strawman to pour gasoline on and lite.
Now that y’all have finally caught up to the rest of the class, what the fuck are you going to do about it
the UN? best we can do is strongly worded letter.
The UN is multiple entities some have executive power some does. ICJ can’t do anything concrete so they can be blamed for not yet admitting there is a genocide yet but not for failling to stop the genocide. A commision job is to investigate, find a conclusion which they did, it is the un country members who has the power to stop the genocide
Let countries point at the findings when they take action basically.
What the fuck do you expect them to do?
What the fuck?? We expect them to uphold their obligations under the genocide convention that all agreed to, mobilize their troops to engage the Israeli genocidal army and end the genocide.
No faith in them doing anything after two years of live streamed genocide, but I expect them to do more than the bare minimum that Spain is starting to do now.
The UN does not have “troops”. UN peacekeepers are members of the armed forces of member states and are deployed at the behest of the Security Council. Why then would you blame the UN as an organisation for not sending in military personnel, when the fault lies in the members and, especially those who would veto any such action?
Jesus Christ, you’re gonna pedantically argue semantics in a conversation about stopping active genocide?
The United NATIONS, as the name implies, is an intergovernmental organization of NATIONS. We don’t expect António Guterres to personally arrest Netanyahu as the other pedantic comment mocked, we expect the governments that make up the UN to uphold their obligations, or failing that, for their people to hold their governments responsible.
Apathy rules, unfortunately, and when the Nazis come for you, there won’t be anyone left to hear you say “actually, the UN does not have “troops” to save me”.
I’m gonna be as pedantic as I ever am, yeah, because boring moaning about the UN is misguided and seeps into society.
When people make fun of the UN for “writing a strongly worded letter” that is a missed opportunity to criticise national governments, especially that of the USA, who are the ones with actual actions they can take, Israel itself notwithstanding.
Do you think whingeing about the UN would have saved me, or else what are you even trying to say here?
We aren’t whining about the UN, we’re talking about the nations that make it up. You’re choosing to redirect the discussion to the UN specifically just to derail the conversation.
Thank you for the lesson no one was confused about, thank you for clarifying that the UN itself has no troops, despite me not making that claim in the first place. I repeat my expectation that the Nations needs to mobilize their troops to meet their obligations under the genocide convention to which they are party, which cannot reasonably be misinterpreted as the UN itself. I even named a nation explicitly that is finally doing something effective (Spain), but do go on.
I think what I’m saying is very clear, you’re shrugging your shoulders and saying “what can we do, the UN has no power” instead of recognizing the failure of UN member nations to actually do something. You’re apathetic to genocide and hide it behind pedantry and self-righteousness.
First they came for the communists, and all that. Palestine won’t be the end, and when you find your own people the target of the Nazis, you’ll have no one left asking their nations to intervene so you can twist their words into an irrelevant strawman to pour gasoline on and lite.
“We will write a strongly written letter after the genocide has concluded unless the checks bounce.”