The performance was held at the Paradiso Grote Zaal. The venue released a statement on Sunday saying it “believed in the power of artistic freedom”.
“Music – and especially punk – is an art form that traditionally magnifies anger, discontent, and injustice without a filter,” it said.
“In a world on fire, artists sometimes choose language that sounds confrontational or violent.”
Addressing the singer’s calls for the death of IDF troops, the venue said it shared “the outrage and concern surrounding the genocidal violence taking place in Gaza” and that “Bob Vylan’s raising his voice against this is legitimate and necessary”.
Punk has always been anti-fascist because fascists and punks compete for the same follower base, and overlap is unavoidable unless one side draws a very hard line about what’s acceptable.
The fascists want to be able to say whatever they want under 1st amendment, but have always lost their shit when people say the same shit about fascists the fascists say about innumerable target demographics.
“death death to the idf” =/= “death to idf troops”
and i’m tired of outlets reporting on it like it is. the man was saying the idf is a criminal organization that needs to be resisted and disbanded. yeah, that’s gonna result in some fighting because the idf are a violent and vile organization of oppressors, but in the context, “death death to the idf” is the only reasonable stance…
IDF is an org though, and he said death to that. it reads pretty clearly as bing about bringing about an end to the org to me an. the other read relies too heavily on a dictionary definition than on the types of allegory rappers engage in. but as you said, maybe that’s just me
Punk has always been anti-fascist because fascists and punks compete for the same follower base, and overlap is unavoidable unless one side draws a very hard line about what’s acceptable.
The fascists want to be able to say whatever they want under 1st amendment, but have always lost their shit when people say the same shit about fascists the fascists say about innumerable target demographics.
NAZI PUNKS FUCK OFF!
We are not used to venues that make reasonable statements without trying to slither out of every responsibility. This is pretty amazing.
“death death to the idf” =/= “death to idf troops”
and i’m tired of outlets reporting on it like it is. the man was saying the idf is a criminal organization that needs to be resisted and disbanded. yeah, that’s gonna result in some fighting because the idf are a violent and vile organization of oppressors, but in the context, “death death to the idf” is the only reasonable stance…
Has he clarified? Death is specifically a thing that happens to individuals, not organizations, so it does not read this way to me.
Death is not specific to individuals.
IDF is an org though, and he said death to that. it reads pretty clearly as bing about bringing about an end to the org to me an. the other read relies too heavily on a dictionary definition than on the types of allegory rappers engage in. but as you said, maybe that’s just me