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    there is no proof shooter isnt maga

    trump shooter wasnt a lefty

    guess what side has done numerous acts of violence since and including Jan 6

    so far this has not even been close to a both sides are the same type issue

    and meanwhile dear leader is still spouting stochastic terrorism but sure lets speculate instead of focusing on real present danger

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        lmao it always amazes me that anyone thinks antifa is some type of organization, and not sure how calling someone gay is included so dude reads more like a 4chan troll, also in case you didn’t know those are helldiver memes

        his parents are conservative mormons in utah, I’ll wait to see when more is released but I’m guessing non voter or libertarian

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          I know for a fact they are not an organization, it’s an idea that groups of individuals form small groups and local militias with antifacist ideology anti capitalist as its core

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            his gma just confirmed the whole family is maga

            he’s a nick fuentes fanboy

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              Nick Fuentes isn’t really Maga and Donald Trump kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago along with Kanye West if I’m not mistaken shortly after Kanye West made his antisemitic comments on the Alex Jones podcast

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                  I don’t like fuentes but do share his distrust of the isreali leadership, bit the incel thing, fkn lame as hell, guy has a micropenis probably

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      It’s more about the celebratory atmosphere after the fact, and less about the evidence in individual cases that is either not available yet or is conflicting as to what ideology (if any), the violence was motivated by. I’d say the real present danger is that a noted and high profile political figure (but not a politician), was murdered (presumably) for his views. That’s real, and not a what if.

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        what did you expect when he pushed messages of hate

        if he was murdered by maga we’ve only been screaming about this since 2016

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          I expect people to be able to say things without being murdered. Killing is not an appropriate response.

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            stop trying to whitewash this

            he didn’t just say ‘things’

            he spewed inflammatory hate and lies justifying violence towards marginalized groups for the sake of personal profit

            and again there is zero proof this was maga

            so far this year it has been consistently white hard right extremists

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              Did he advocate for violence? Do you really think it’s MAGA? Come on… but if it is then i will formally apologize to you. Also I’d be curious of the count for left wing versus right wing violence. I’d also be curious which events you consider applicable to that count.

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                yes he did in the snarky ‘no one will notice’ way all these fucktards do

                and it was a repub that shot at trump so yea totally possible its a magat unhappy about his world falling apart

                lots of stupid ‘betrayed’ red voters right now

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                  Well check back when the dust settles, I guess. I know you would love to believe that its a disgruntled fan or something like that, but it’s probably not.

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                    honestly i don’t personally care either way, regardless of who killed him he wasn’t innocent

                    my point is fox news is already ramping up the stochastic terrorism again and we have zero idea who did it, this is the world he helped create for profit

                    we know who shot at trump and they just spun up conspiracy theories instead of address the actual issue of gun and political violence

                    he made fucking jokes about pelosi’s husbands attack but lord forbid anyone find the irony of him being shot after the things he’s said

                    remember empathy is bad and not mocking him is against his wishes

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          Question, have you ever seen any of his debates? Is easy to say message of hate but please cite evidence of this that is not based on “dude trust me” sources

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            have you? but don’t worry internet has plenty of his highlights atm

            not everything he says is wrong but plenty enough of it is and most of it is self serving as fuck

            obviously he thought he was immune from the consequences so rather ironic

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              I have seen his debates and he usually just tries to tie in biblical response to why Aniston is bad, why illegal immigration is bad and other bread and butter conservative parties that are pretty much run of the mill stuff. I think the real reason libs hate him is this.

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                the right keeps trying to ignore that trumps shooter was a republican

                the political violence this year has been overwhelmingly from the right

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                    how heavy are those goal posts cause we all know where fox news would be if we even had a hint of dem involved