• OccamsRazer@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    It’s more about the celebratory atmosphere after the fact, and less about the evidence in individual cases that is either not available yet or is conflicting as to what ideology (if any), the violence was motivated by. I’d say the real present danger is that a noted and high profile political figure (but not a politician), was murdered (presumably) for his views. That’s real, and not a what if.

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      3 days ago

      what did you expect when he pushed messages of hate

      if he was murdered by maga we’ve only been screaming about this since 2016

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        I expect people to be able to say things without being murdered. Killing is not an appropriate response.

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          stop trying to whitewash this

          he didn’t just say ‘things’

          he spewed inflammatory hate and lies justifying violence towards marginalized groups for the sake of personal profit

          and again there is zero proof this was maga

          so far this year it has been consistently white hard right extremists

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            Did he advocate for violence? Do you really think it’s MAGA? Come on… but if it is then i will formally apologize to you. Also I’d be curious of the count for left wing versus right wing violence. I’d also be curious which events you consider applicable to that count.

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              yes he did in the snarky ‘no one will notice’ way all these fucktards do

              and it was a repub that shot at trump so yea totally possible its a magat unhappy about his world falling apart

              lots of stupid ‘betrayed’ red voters right now

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                Well check back when the dust settles, I guess. I know you would love to believe that its a disgruntled fan or something like that, but it’s probably not.

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                  honestly i don’t personally care either way, regardless of who killed him he wasn’t innocent

                  my point is fox news is already ramping up the stochastic terrorism again and we have zero idea who did it, this is the world he helped create for profit

                  we know who shot at trump and they just spun up conspiracy theories instead of address the actual issue of gun and political violence

                  he made fucking jokes about pelosi’s husbands attack but lord forbid anyone find the irony of him being shot after the things he’s said

                  remember empathy is bad and not mocking him is against his wishes

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                    I personally did not like it when people were making fun of Nancy Pelosi’s husband, I believe as conservatives we have to be better than that. However, I don’t like that. Nancy Pelosi is actively insider trading all the time as well as all of fucking Congress.

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                    I’m not trying to defend anything Charlie Kirk said, but I don’t believe he deserved to die because of it.

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        Question, have you ever seen any of his debates? Is easy to say message of hate but please cite evidence of this that is not based on “dude trust me” sources

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          have you? but don’t worry internet has plenty of his highlights atm

          not everything he says is wrong but plenty enough of it is and most of it is self serving as fuck

          obviously he thought he was immune from the consequences so rather ironic

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            I have seen his debates and he usually just tries to tie in biblical response to why Aniston is bad, why illegal immigration is bad and other bread and butter conservative parties that are pretty much run of the mill stuff. I think the real reason libs hate him is this.

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              the right keeps trying to ignore that trumps shooter was a republican

              the political violence this year has been overwhelmingly from the right

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                    HS friend says he was the only leftist in his family. Family says he talked about LW activism. He was a member of the DSA. He was active in multiple antifa discord servers, including one where he planned the shooting. Let me know when there’s enough to call him non-Republican.

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                  how heavy are those goal posts cause we all know where fox news would be if we even had a hint of dem involved