I mean…how much agency did she really have? Most likely none.
What I find odd is why wait so long? She is 99. Is this justice for anyone at this point? In the news, several people in their 90s were charged with crimes during WW2. It just seems oddly late, as you said, performative.
That’s moving the goalpost.
The pay their fair share of income tax.
The issue is there is a way to avoid income.
That’s the problem we need to solve. Technically they’re taking on debt to avoid taxes. Sounds reasonable but those are loans we couldn’t get. It’s just a tax avoidance system.
You didn’t cite anything. When called out, you make a personal attack?
It really boils down to this: why would you go to bat for people who have more than you? Because someone always has more than someone else. Unless you are number one, someone always has more than you do. A fair society is not one that punishes the successful people. You make sure the system is fair.
It does not make sense for people like you to say millionaires “pay their fair share” when they only become wealthy due to exploitation of everyone else who has to work for a living.
I don’t buy that at all. Going to work is not being exploited. I go to work every day, and I am not exploited. I am paid fairly for the work I do.
If you’re over the age of 18 and you still haven’t figured these basic facts out, that means you’re being taken advantage of left and right without even realizing it. Or maybe I am not being taken advantage of. Maybe I am paid fairly for the work I do, and I am happy with my pay. the only thing I am unhappy about is having to pay more than my fair share of taxes for people who don’t want to pay their fair share.
No, Bernie has shown time and time again that he doesn’t understand how anything works.
https://reason.com/2018/08/09/the-economic-ignorance-of-bernie-sanders/
Can you find anyone that says Bernie understands economics?
Can you show otherwise?
It would be interesting to see how many of the rich are using loans to bypass taxes.
I have only heard of a few cases dealing with tech wealthy people who are paid mainly in stock.
I do think it is an issue and something should be done about it.
It is a fallout from being a public company and we can regulate that much easier.
I think our whole tax system needs to be burned down and replaced.
“buy borrow die” is totally income, dude. It is not income under the law but I have no issues taxing it as income or preventing the practice.
If Bernie wasn’t so dumb, that is where he would focus his angst. I suspect few people really understand that is how Elon supports himself through loans and not income.
One day, those loans have to be called, but until then, there is no income.
I also never said wealth was taxed. I said his income should be taxed (in response to your question). then why did you bring up Elon’s wealth?
You’re misrepresenting my argument at every step like you always do.
Then, be more clear. Don’t blame me because you can’t articulate your thoughts well. You are talking about wealth but claim you are not talking about wealth. Elon does not earn $1.5 billion per year. That is factually inaccurate.
Your sealion question at the end is irrelevant; you have no idea how much I earn, and I’m not here to impress Internet strangers like you seem to be. You said you would pay more but when asked, it’s now sealioning? Never asked how much you earned. I asked how much more your bracket should pay since you said you would pay more.
Bet you’re real close to that billion though if you keep grinding! Not even close and not even a goal of mine.
Bet it burns you up that you can’t ban me from here. It’s so weird you try to turn everything personal instead of having a discussion. Instead of trying to talk about me, why not engage in the discussion?
Elon Musk earns about $1.5 billion dollars/year with an estimated net worth of about $150 billion.
False. Elon does not earn $1.5 billion a year. That is not his income. His net worth has nothing to do with his income.
Musk should be taxed at 90% like we did for top earners during the biggest economic expansion in our nation’s history.
That is also false. Income was taxed at 90%, not wealth. We have never taxed wealth because it is unconstitutional. Also, the tax code was very different back then, and only 1 person ever paid that level of tax. People had many more deductions than they do now.
And that wasn’t my point; you’re trying to change the argument because you know you’re wrong. No, I am right, as you demonstrated here that you don’t know the difference between income, wealth, and even how taxes have worked historically.
I would love for you to point out where I said I wouldn’t be willing to pay more in taxes. This accusation is a confession, it seems.
How much more do you think your tax bracket should pay to keep the current rates for all the other brackets?
No, it answers what you said but you choose to think otherwise.
I will make it simple for you.
Elon typically earns 1 dollar per year.
How much should he pay in taxes on that 1 dollar?
Your point is invalid. High-income earners already pay more in taxes, not only as a percentage but also as a total of their income.
You don’t see the irony in wanting others to pay more but not wanting to pay more yourself.
Why are you quoting the bible? The bible also says I shouldn’t eat shellfish. Leave your sky God out of the discussion.
That paper ignores people’s capacity to pay.
People need to be responsible for their finances. The answer isn’t to make other people pay your way in life. As California and New York learned, people will leave and their budgets are wrecked.
The rich already pay more than their fair taxes. If you have a cite to show otherwise, I would love to see it.
https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/rich-pay-their-fair-share-of-taxes/
As this chart shows, The top 1% pay 40% of all taxes but only bring in 20% of the income. That is paying their fair share.
The top 5% pay 20% of the taxes but only bring in 15% of the income.
So yes, I deserve a tax cut, and most likely, you deserve a tax increase.
I have never suggested that. Nice Strawman you built there!
Funny, I don’t remember ever saying taxes are theft by default. What I have said is the tax system should be fair.
Bernie has suggested this, such as taxing wealth, which is unconstitutional. He didn’t propose an amendment; he just wanted to tax wealth. He didn’t even realize that it was against the Constitution. He also said it’s unfair that Elon didn’t pay more in income tax when he made a dollar that year. He couldn’t even be bothered to look up Elon’s income.
He says things so his plebes will clap without realizing it isn’t an intelligent or viable solution.
I like Sanders because he isn’t just another d/r. He speaks his mind, and I believe he believes in what he says. I would vote for him out of principle.
That said, his ideas are idiotic for the most part, and he has no clue how the economy works.If elected the country would quickly become a wasteland if his ideas were implemented but I would feel decent voting for him at least.
It’s not a gotcha. I don’t watch YouTube.
What is the obsession with you YouTube? You like making billionaires richer from selling data?
Why would I want to sell it in under a year?
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