I would say this is closer to the japanese version than the german one, since the riots about ‘you are not entitled to rape them, only kill them’ and the governent capitulating.

edit: see: the public competitions about which officers could behead the most chinese VS some german POW’s vomitting or shouting that it had to be lies when they saw video of the death camps. the rhetoric of ‘chopping wood’ used by the nearest moral equivalent to a zionist that has ever existed.

a few who were bought and paid for by a specific (and probably the worst) zionist.

the thing is, as shown here, there are no zionist civilians. not one. they are all armed ready and not just willing but eager to fight.

that isn’t to say there aren’t any sort of resistance, but while they’re not quite partisans yet, friendly fire is not the same as killing civilians.

you’re not making genocide look bad, you’re just making antisemitism look good. fucking stop.

not true! look at all the riots and almost civil war that happened when a judge said maybe you don’t have the right to rape palestinian prisoners!

their orifices and screams are also valued. something something chopping wood.

oh, good thinking, yes; that village was a terrorist.

there are no zionist civilians, holy shit. every time I think they can’t possibly worse, they find a way to surprise me.

yep! the thing is, it isn’t about hostility to religion in general, which, like, I could get, those ‘islamic state’ fuckers (and their christian counterparts currently red teaming the united states political system, who are worse and want to end the world and have been infiltrating the military that has nuclear weapons for decades) ARE (at least broadly) blood drenched vicious monsters who should all be killed. no need to be a dick about it, shouldn’t treat the moderates the same way as the fanatics, but, like, everything bad about islam, except possibly the ‘no drinking’ thing, the worst christians ALSO DO.

like, every single bad thing they SAY about muslims also applies to these other people who maybe even live nextdoor. literally all of it (I’ve never heard about ‘those damn teatotaling muslins, be’in all diaphanous and sober and pulling out a compass before they pray’), so clearly that’s not what their actual fucking problem with it is. its not even that its barbaric behavior; it’s that its fucking dishonest barbaric behavior.

yeah; it’s pretty fucked. the ‘stern gang’ or ‘lehi’ is a good starting point.

okay but… why is the splash damage from disapproving of the worst muslims with ‘muslims bad’ always to sikhs and secular arabs and more moderate muslims who hate this shit almost as much as you claim to, but never to the worst christians doing that exact same shit with the exact same rhetoric who the speaker smiles at every week waiting in line for groceries?

no, they didn’t become what they hated; the zionists always tried to be chummy with hitler. they had an SS unit. they did not treat holocaust survivors well.

well. exterminating the brutes. holding onto power a few minutes longer. lebensraum for your ‘master race’. testing weapons systems for internal repression. plenty of stuff.

no, because it was just a ‘protocols of the elders of zion’/‘henry morton stanley’ crossover LARP from day one, if the people who were there first got subjected to laws (which they did) but couldn’t vote (which they couldn’t), then they were never a democracy. not for a second. they were and are an oligarchy, a racial supremacist theocratic(oh, fun facts) apartheid one. also the genocide, they also started that on basically day 1.

*so about that. i’m told there’s, like, a specific law in one of the big jewish holy books that says specifically to not do a zionism and especially not ‘in the holy land’ unless you’re this one specific dead guy, and it is absolutely not okay.

zionists can’t really be saved. they know what they do is unforgivable, and can’t imagine anyone else being less vile and disgusting than they are. their fear keeps them trapped in a cycle of atrocity. only one way out. may as well do it before more innocents get hurt.

okay but, like, specifically, this specific question:

what has changed, that it would magically work now? that the fucking mythical good-cop king under the mountain will return and save us all by making the often literal neo nazi death squads whose soul reason for existing is the maintenance of hierarchal violence and wealth/class disparity be nice and cool and prosocial?

what specific changes have happened? what did the police ‘reforms’ after 2020 fix? have the rates of innocent people gunned down in the streets in the woods in their homes gone down in the past four years? what about the time before that? or before that? or before that? your proposal has failed, constantly, invariable, without one exception, since before the invention of the steam engine. it’s not even stupidity anymore; it’s insanity.

stop cowering. stop restricting your horizon of action to the things your oppressors tell you you’re allowed to do. look for the gaps. look the the real solutions. try playing a non-pacifist run of ‘wolfenstein’, see if you do any better.

all of those religions are intensely misogynist. that’s just the islam flavor abrahamic atrocity. the christian flavor has her dying of ectopic pregnancy after being raped at age 7.

this is a problem that includes islam, but is not specifically an islam problem. they all fucking do this, and whenever people JUST talk about islam, it always victimizes the least bad muslims, refugees, and vulnerable brown people WHO AREN’T EVEN MUSLIMS, and never, NEVER fixes it, never, NEVER goes after the worst hypermisogynist pedophile pieces of shit petpetuating the atrocities. so when I see people focused on this fucking 2000s era throwback islamophobia it NEVER ends in ‘we must protect people’ it NEVER ends in ‘we must end the evils of religion’, it ALWAYS ends in the ‘war of civilizations’ bullshit that has people who live in my fucking neighborhood defending zionists rioting for their right to rape their victims, because most of their victims are muslim. that has people who live in my fucking neighborhood talking about exterminating the brutes and death camps and hey, who else can we put in those, maybe queers? maybe queers. (they don’t say ‘queers’).

its why I can’t take any criticism of ISLAM IN PARTICULAR (edit:unless its inclusive of the rest of that group of mind-plagues) seriously. because everything shitty muslims do, shitty christians do just as bad, plus some other crap. hell, a lot of times, their organization names ARE EVEN DIRECT FUCKING TRANSLATIONS OF EACH OTHER. it’s just racism. as bad as I think these fuckers are, you’re not on the same team as me. you just want an excuse to be racist, and I don’t believe you actually give a shit about the victim, she’s just an excuse too. please don’t bring rage against religion into it if you only care about this shit when a religion you mostly associate with brown people does it. its like when qanon started talking about ‘human trafficking’.

so who DOES have the right to criticize you?

everybody always told me to be happy, be more positive, see silver linings.

but that seems to upset them more than just being glum all the time ever did. almost like the only thing the kinds of people who get upset by me mentioning the world being crap just hate that I’m acknowledging a reality they would rather keep hidden, so they can keep their shitty exploitative bullshit going guilt-free.

no but that’s the thing, I see a lot on the internet “religion bad!” (true) turning into “muslims bad!” and letting at-least-as-bad offenders off the hook. that’s the part that bugs me.

the christians are doing THIS EXACT SAME SHIT in american cities. I walked past the aftermath of some shit like this happening multiple times in my life. it doesn’t even make the news most of the time.

so yes, they’re monsters, stop them. but lets not SINGLE THEM OUT and let the OTHER, POTENTIALLY WORSE monsters off the hook.

edit: also, islamophobia in the anglosphere is rarely used to reduce the outrageous horrors of religion, and always used to fuck up marginalized people, so I’m always skeptical of it being a genuine criticism of religion.

cops is cops is cops is cops. they’re all bastards. do we really think the iranian ones are meaningfully different guys than the american ones? than the chinese ones?

I think if you stripped them of superficial cultural signifiers, they would be indistinguishable.