I thought they more or less already did that? Although perhaps not at the UN.

They’ve already been making out that it’s an unacceptable act of aggression by Ukraine.

Next up:

• someone falls out a window
• Putin with mysterious illness, photos of him sitting many metres away across a stupidly long table.
• they will launch the nukes if other countries don’t stop supporting Ukraine.

I think a lot of users are just very young, and the light of idealism hasn’t left their eyes.

I agree with you pretty much on all points.

I am also conflicted.

It’s up to courts and parole boards to determine what punishments are appropriate, given the context of the crimes.

I don’t like the guy, and of course his crime was repugnant, but I can still acknowledge that he’s one of the best volleyball players in the world. These two opinions are incongruous and yet, they exist at the same time.

Can someone spell it out for me?

Who did the nutty instances want to win?

Who did normal people want to win?

I agree.

In the 70s everyone thought there would be a nuclear apocalypse.

A few decades before that children were born intended to be used as free labour for subsistence agriculture.

Yes climate change is a threat unlike any we’ve ever faced, yes its getting worse quicker than we thought, and yes population reduction is one way to mitigate it… but I don’t think that makes it wrong to have a child.

They would have been on a 457 visa which means they were indeed temporary, but they had skills in demand. It is a pathway to citizenship.

Point is, we’re not just letting people show up for medical treatment.

We’re not talking about letting anyone in.

These two were working towards becoming citizens. They were already here.