i am more than willing to engage on any positive claim you want to make (i probably agree with a lot of them). what i’m not willing to do is tolerate personal attacks and dogpiling.

good science is recognizing that LCAs are not transferable between studies, so poore-nemecek’s analysis must be disregarded.

this is just recycled poore nemecek. it’s bad science gaining entrenchment.

this paper doesn’t tell us how much methane is produced. it’s as detailed as your comment.

what is the data? how much do they produce?

the paper compiles LCAs from disparate sources. but LCAs are not transferable between studies. the entire basis of the analysis is bad science.

this is just poore-nemecek, and it is bad science.

the more I dig into this paper the worse it gets. it’s calculating inputs from feed and land use change. this is as bad as poore-nemecek. but it’s not even using data from the operations, instead it’s just guessing.

no one should take this paper seriously, except academic rhetoricians who need to show their colleagues how the trappings of science are used to spread claims without evidence.

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page 65: this report is an extrapolation based on ivanovich et al, which itself is an extrapolation based on poore-nemecek. this is bad science built on bad science.

I’m totally open to the claims that are presented, but the evidence used to support it simply can’t do that.

if they could prove it, this would be worth discussing. these are just guesses.

the vast majority of beef cattle gain most of their weight grazing. cattle in particular consume very little of the soy crop, but what portion of the soy crop that is fed to any livestock is by-and-large the industrial waste from producing soybean oil. recovering that to feed to livestock is a conservation of resources.

your link does not address grazing ruminants, a practice that supports the vast majority of meat cattle, and which requires no crop deaths at all

not to mention the insects genocidally slaughtered by chemical warfare

the vast majority of the soybean product that is fed to animals is the byproduct of producing soybean oil. feeding animals industrial waste is a good use of it.

The country has a Jewish president and a Muslim cabinet minister. Sound like a Nazi country to you?

identity politics are boring. there were Jewish collaborators in the third Reich.

integrating the azov brigade into the national guard sounds like a bunch of Nazis are in the government to me.

both can be true