Also https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/12/3/live-south-koreas-president-yoon-declares-emergency-martial-law

I read he is blocking the National Assembly building to avoid the martial law being lifted; both parties, including his, will vote to lift it should they get inside

Why did the searcher cross the road?

To get to the other grant

I’m very sure the majority of USA news corps are going to say something about terrorists striking the poor, peace loving Israelis. They don’t have to lie.

Leave out context and details and secondary sources , blogs and social media will use that for their own reasons

I’m a little out of the loop, but I think the main barriers to peace here are the meddling of the foreign powers, all of them have their own agenda which is often in conflict themselves even if some are allies elsewhere.

I think it would have been negotiated out of pure exhaustion years ago otherwise

With that many people and organizations and groups and hopes and dreams and atrocities, monsters and good deeds: it’s just not swept under the rug later.

Any peace must be political

It’s my understanding that this is much more complex than most media report. And, as an outsider who spent some time reading about this the last ten years, I came to the conclusion that all 50 ( lost count) sides and groups have good and bad mixed into them.

Several sources say the Viking longships could be carried overland to different lakes. Ships were slender and held many people working as a team

It’s not that fine a line though, one can get on the wrong side in so many different ways. Today pro genocide stuff is mixed up in many messages that can otherwise be wholesome.

For example: the daily pictures on masterdon about Holocaust victims. Good , yes. Where are the daily Palestinian images ? Once one starts asking questions, one can easily start to accidentally stray off the path of the righteous and get into morally ambiguous muck.

That’s one problem with widely supported crimes, it’s not just the evil people who passively support bad things. When there is an undercurrent of pro genocide, many babies get thrown out with many bathwaters. And that is bad.

It makes it worse when there are more zionist Christians than Zionist Jews in the USA, and to see that minority of Jews in the USA unite in crime with people who do not like them is heart attack inducing .

The whole thing is a mess and maybe the only way to fight it is redefining boundaries

It’s not Iran I worry about

Can you point to the link which is evil?

The western reaction is calm, considering, slightly curious and not urgent. The quotes show a lack of importance. It might as well be business as usual instead of a harbinger of wider war.

Disasters like this often have the same kind initial reactions in history

I’ve leaned so much from example here, and other media, how genocide can be normalized and ignored.

Ignore in one location, and it’s not hard to imagine being ignored elsewhere later. It’s not so much as a moral irritation for me to see the reporting, as hearing a promise of violence closer home. Should circumstances permit. A wake up call.

But this did not come out of a vacuum

Well, … yes that seems to be what will happen

I live near the bottom, and I see a lot of anti Palestinian stuff, mostly pretending the Palestinians do not exist, with a random anti-Semitic accusation thrown it.

And it’s not just the democrats, I see this in many western nations. It’s a stain on many parties who speak many languages.

If the killings stopped today , this would be only a black mark against those involved. Something to get angry about by many. Accusing fingers could be pointed. Perhaps even reevaluation by some.

But we are only a quarter through the genocide. This will last months or years more. Many will be killed in the future. So this is an active crime scene. Those that will have fingers pointed at later are still doing harm now, and will do harm in the future.

Not just the high level politicians, but in all levels of each country. There is collective guilt , and that is not ended either

The companies are gun-shy because their governments are gun-shy. Here it’s easier to see the paltry transfer of weapons outside the nice words and promises.