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Unlikely you’ll ever be in this situation but fun fact: Whales have enormous mouths but itty bitty throats. They can’t swallow anything larger than a grapefruit so unless it hauls in your infant? You’ll probably be fine if you stay calm. Just maybe a little traumatized.
You seem to be under the impression that I’m defending the idea of the US invading Canada.
No? I just missed a step in my text a bit. My point was that while the US military is strong and could outright invade Canada with tanks and planes and guns… that isn’t how the war would actually be fought. It would instantly turn to guerilla warfare as normal citizens started weaponizing themselves, crossing into the United States, and being able to carry out attacks on American infrastructure while looking and sounding the same as Americans.
Canada can’t prepare a ton more than it already has but America can’t prepare at all. The infrastructure in America is way too vulnerable and any war with Canada would mean a destruction of American infrastructure carried out by people wearing not uniforms but a smile.
That doesn’t matter at all when you’re actively attacking infrastructure and not people.
And are they just going to start shooting normal people at random? Canadians look exactly and sound exactly like America. The US Military is really good at wrecking a country but who cares when we can cross a border you can’t defend, mingle perfectly and start guerilla attacks against major infrastructure?
This war is not just tanks vs planes and ships vs submarines. This would end violently for America.
And America would lose. Violently. They may successfully annex the country but they would never win.
If America invades Canada then the only thing that has happened is guaranteed your own demise. You have a border with us that isn’t defensible and we look exactly like you. We sound exactly like you. We are taught the same things as you are and because of your loud as shit TV, we’re plugged into the same pop culture. We can pass every single test to come off as an American.
America invades Canada and guerilla warfare becomes instaneous. You would have to literally kill every single Canadian who has a problem with the invasion because otherwise the extreme Anti-American hatred will only grow and foster until the United States is constantly being bombarded by “domestic terrorists” from a nation that never wanted to be a part of your shitheap in the first place.
People keep thinking about war with drones and tanks and soldiers. If you’re going to another country and trying to pound them into submission like the Americans or Russians? Sure. But it is a very different thing entirely when a fishing vessel packed with fertilizer detonates inside of a port or harbor or when multiple explosives are set off devastating your insanely aging and woefully unprotected bridges and railways. Or those pipelines that go on forever with massive areas of nothing and no one in between. Cause an ecological spill you can’t recover from. Maybe even the power grid that your states have idiotically decided to seperate? We could cripple Texas with a bunch of Albertans. Or we could just go through your farming states spreading weeds everywhere. Start planting Kudzu everywhere across the US. Start burning forests that prevent your dustbowl from reoccuring. You are so fucking easy to destroy.
You guys protect all the wrong things and you do not need to be a terrorist to realize how insanely inadequate the protections would be from attacks within.
I know a bunch of Canadians who are still furious about that time an American dropped a fucking bomb on Canadian forces and killed a bunch of us and then walked away with effectively no repurcussions.
I’m one of those Canadians.
The link I posted of the trailer of Come From Away sums it up pretty well. But basically, airspace got locked down in America on 9/11 and hundreds of planes that were on their way had to be grounded. Gander, a small town of about 9000, took in about 8000 passengers. Due to the central location of Gander, it took an absurd amount of planes in and all those people had to go somewhere. We set up emergency shelters but most people just stayed at someone’s home for free until the plane was ready to go.
Christ. I’m from Newfoundland but also (surprising literally zero Canadians) lived in Fort McMurray and other parts of Alberta for a time. The idea of them reacting like that up there now is kind of astounding. I remember when Trudeau was elected. I was living just outside of Calgary at the time. I remember people flying American flags saying they wanted to leave and join the US as a whole other state.
Man. You have to fuck up royally to get dimwit dipshit Albertans and other Canadians to go “Nah, we’ll pass there buddy.”
As mentioned I’m from NFLD. Specifically from the Gander area and of an age to vividly remember all of the planes landing in Gander. All the shitloads of people, mostly Americans, who were stranded and afraid. We had a Texan couple stay in our house for a couple of days until the planes were ready to go. There is a musical play called Come From Away that I cannot recommend enough about what happened. Got our accent and music right but also the feel of what was going on. I’m super proud to have lived during that and while I was just a kid? I am super proud of how we all acted. Most people got taken into homes and taken care of until their planes were ready to go. Not to mention all the work setting up emergency areas for people to stay and food and everything else. It truly was a community effort.
The towns have been informally polling ourselves on Facebook and other places to see how we’d all react if 9/11 happened today. The overwhelming majority of us reacted with “Fuck them. They’re staying on the planes or limited to the airport.” with some people saying the planes should be outright rejected for fear of it being a ploy of Americans trying to invade Newfoundland.
Just to let you non-Canadians know something… You know how Canadians are called the most polite people on the planet? Newfies are usually said to be the most polite of the Canadians.
Again… how royally do you have to fuck up…
I typed that bitch out manually because I knew I was just gonna end up sending it to someone else in the future.
I already have.
Resources is definitely true but it also concerned me a bit that the three countries he targetted (Panama, Greenland, Canada) are all countries that control major trade routes. Panama shouldn’t need to be explained but Canada has St. Lawrence Seaway that goes into the Great Lakes and Canada also controls (with Greenland to an extent) the Northwest Passage that is becoming more navigatable every year.
And of most of the people. That “Why wouldn’t you reject these people. They’re awful.” line is based on the fact that a majority of Americans allowed Trump to become elected. Either through actively voting for him or whatever excuse they want to use for not voting at all against outright fascism. First time he was elected an argument could be made that the people who didn’t vote or who voted for him were misled. At this point? It just became abundantly clear that our neighbors to the south genuinely don’t seem to care about anything or harbor a deep amount of hatred or ignorance within themselves.
Review should have gone a bit harder in my opinion. It isn’t just the government or the country itself that is an embarassment. Most of the people are too.
And let me be abundantly clear. If whoever is reading this voted for anyone other than Kamala, or did not vote at all, yes. You’re the awful people we’re talking about. You should really hate yourself as much as we hate you.
Most of us would rather die than ever become an American. Want a good example of the mood in Canada summed up against our ‘ally to the south’ as of late? Well let me just personally put it this way. You, the United States, are a fucking joke.
To quote an author, Stephen Marche, who spoke on the CBC here in Canada recently… The bold is mine but the emphasis really should be placed there anyway.
They’ve [The US] come off of 70 years of failed wars of occuption. One thing you have to understand about these comments is that they come from a profound weakness that America is really unfamiliar with. And Canada is unfamiliar with America being this weak. They can’t hold Baghdad, I’m not sure why they think they can hold Montreal. But they’re also being kicked out of Niger and you know they are weaker than they’ve ever been in a lot of ways. They are extremely fragile as a country. They have absolutely no solidarity, they have absolutely no unity. They are in the middle of dismantling their administrative state and war is a is a test, fundamentally, of the strength of the administrative state. So I think you should take this about as seriously as you would take the ramblings of a crack addict on the subway. I.e, you pay attention to it and get out of the way and you do what you can but, you know, this is not something to be treated like an actual… this is not something to be thought about. It’s just the ramblings of lunacy.
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I think he’s [Trump] actually managed to make Canadians patriotic for the first time since I can remember. You have to say, he’s the president of the United States but the United States is crumbling. Institutions are falling apart and ‘Who the United States is at this moment’… that’s not a meaningful phrase. You have to ask yourself which America are you talking about, which institutions are you talking about, because they are not under the guidance of anyone, right?
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All he [Trump] can do is destroy. The American stock market is falling, even the threat of this [tarrifs on Canadian goods] has caused inflation to raise it’s head. The American people fired everyone who has caused gas prices to rise almost immediately. They can tolerate almost anything from their political class. War crimes, whatever, but increase gas prices they go crazy for. So it’s just very important to understand that this is spoken from a position of profound weakness.
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America has never been an uglier place to become a part of. <laughs> I mean who would wanna be American at this point in history. They’re about to start killing each other. There is no question that there is a Canadian rejection of American values, the American government and Amreica itself. Why wouldn’t you reject these people? They’re awful.
Meanwhile Elon Musk, the actual President of the United States, got his money from an emerald mind that heavily profited from apartheid. So… Gonna cut ties with your sugar daddy, you geriatric squash?
See previous comments. Once again, your reading comprehension skills aren’t my problem. If you can’t understand, then just go away. In either case? I’m not wasting anymore time on you. Either you are incapable of grasping an extremely simple concept that everyone else has grasped or you’re just a troll. At any rate, you have a negative value in my life and aren’t even remotely worth the effort. Nothing can be gained when you are acting this way. You will never add anything of value. You have no worth in this conversation when you cannot follow along and I do not have the time, patience, or crayons to explain it to you.
Man, you have just actively avoided logic at every possible opportunity here. You’re just burying your head in the sand and screaming that everyone else is wrong. The downvotes isn’t because i’m popular, it is because you have no idea what you’re talking about. Have fun with that, I’m done wasting time on you. There’s no point in having a conversation with you if you’re just going to divorce yourself from reality like a Trump or Pollievre voter.
Have fun with the bed you made. You aren’t worth a single second more of my time.
Ratio says otherwise. You are getting hammered with downvotes because you can’t grasp the simple concept that I put forward.
Yeah, and quick thing, but how do we go about getting rid of those they again?
Oh yeah…
I can be angry at ‘them’ all I want. I am. But I can be equally as frustrated with the infinite amount of fools who buy into that propaganda and think nothing more of it. I am not going to remove blame from idiots simply because they were swayed by propaganda from one side. They are still idiots who didn’t educate themselves, didn’t go further in and entrenched themselves in stupidity. Never thinking for themselves.
I am done with this circular logic of “No, don’t blame the people who aren’t doing the literal ONE FUCKING THING that they have within their power to do! Blame someone else!” Equally as done with this conversation.
It literally does. Your reading comprehension skills are not my problem.
Yes. This is true. Do you know how you effect those social movements in the government?
By voting.
You cannot argue that you are trying to participate in a social change of government by not engaging in that system of government. It is what is there. If you want to change it, you either need a full on revolution or active social change effected through voting in of various representatives that actually represent you and are willing to change those laws. True, you cannot fall to electoral fetishism, but that doesn’t mean to just ignore it entirely.
So. Once again, I am blaming the voters which is an accurate blame to place. Why? Because they are uneducated, hostile, or hateful. They do not engage in the voting system, they engage in spectacle. Whether that be by posting random comments like this Index person who is blatantly a Russian or by throwing a hissy fit but not doing anything.
The reason this cycle keeps continuing is because voters do not educate themselves and vote for their best interests. It is just as simple as that. Straight up. It isn’t complex. There isn’t some massive conspiracy. People just do not bother.
There must have been a wind shear or something as it was landing. Gust of wind comes in and just pushes the plane over on its side as its landing. Astounding that critical injuries only totaled 2.