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  • But can we maybe just stop taking a side? This conflict is not about Israel or Palestine having to be deradicalized, OP, it’s about the all the warmongers and religious fundamentalists and radicals on both sides who need to be deradicalized.

    Partially incorrect, since the vast majority of Israelis clearly support the actions of their current government and army. Now, this could be due to mass propaganda inside Israel. Quite possible, but the numbers are still way too high. The level of support is higher than it was in Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, where as we now know, propaganda was constant and ubiquitous.

    Moreover, it’s one of very few countries on the planet that have never had a significant peaceful period in their history. Pretty much since its establishment in 1948, Israel has been slaughtering people. Admittedly, not all of it is their fault. I don’t blame them for getting invaded literal hours after declaring independence. However, Europe has experienced this in the past as well, and yet, it managed to forge peace lasting longer than its conflicts.

    This, and more, points me to a suggestion that Israel does in fact need to be deradicalized. How we’d go about it, if confirmed to be the case, is an entirely different matter.


  • This is true for nearly all cases of government critique. However, it’s also true that any country/nation electing a certain government is at least partially responsible for their actions. Naturally, we can argue about the degree, since it is not clear how open and effective elections are.

    Apart from that, we generally say “[country] x does [thing y]” and not “[this specific government] consisting of [parties a, b and c], from [country x] does [thing y]” for simplicity. Most people only really care about their own country, its neighbors and the three superpowers. It’s not exactly easy remembering several political parties, various individual politicians, and what they all say and do from 193+ countries.