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  • Let me try to explain it another way.

    We know that 1/3 of the dead are children, according to the headline. We also know that children make up about half the population of Gaza. We assume that none of the combatants are children.

    If a person is killed, that person is either an adult combatant, an adult civilian, or a child civilian. Since child civilians make up 1/3 of the dead and there are as many adult civilians as child civilians in Gaza, adult civilians therefore make up another 1/3 of the dead. That adds up to 2/3 of the dead being civilians. 2/3 civilian dead and 1/3 combatant dead is a 2:1 ratio of civilians to combatants killed.


  • That’s not what I’m saying - I don’t have a term that represents “#deadKids/#allCivilians”.

    If I were to use your notation, I would write:

    #deadKids/#allDead = #deadCivilians/#allDead * #allKids/#allCivilians

    I recognize that it’s macabre to treat this as a word problem, but the math works out if you do. If out of 100 dead people, 33 are combatants and 67 are civilians (the 2:1 civilian to combatant ratio I have calculated) and half of the dead civilians are children, then there are 33 dead children, which is the “one third” in the headline.



  • If we assume that (1) the civilian population is 50% children and (2) none of the combatants are children then:

    (fraction of the dead that is children) = (fraction of the dead that is civilians) * (fraction of the civilians that is children)

    (1/3) = (fraction of the dead that is civilians) * (1/2)

    (fraction of the dead that is civilians) = (1/3) ÷ (1/2) = (2/3)

    This is where my 2:1 civilians to combatants number comes from.

    The fact that among the dead, the ratio of civilians to combatants equals the ratio of adults to children is a coincidence.













  • This is a little more complicated than the trolley problem because pulling the lever doesn’t cause the train to kill one person instead of five. It causes the train to go onto a completely empty track where it won’t hit anyone, but there’s a small chance that changing the train’s direction will cause it to derail and crash into a crowd of people, killing many more than five of them.

    If derailing kills 50 people and the chance of derailing is 1 in 100, the average number of deaths from pulling the lever is only 0.5. But you’re going to be pulling the lever a lot, eventually one of the trains will derail, and when 50 people die do you want to be the guy explaining that the expected value of your action was positive?

    What if you’re really unlucky and the train derails the first time you pull the lever? Then you can’t even point out that pulling the lever in the past saved lives.




  • You really didn’t read the article.

    UNICEF is ready to buy and ship the vaccines but

    Three years after the last worldwide mpox outbreak, the W.H.O. still has neither officially approved the vaccines — although the United States and Europe have — nor has it issued an emergency use license that would speed access.

    And the W.H.O. decided not to issue an emergency license back then because it wanted to ensure that research data was generated, he said. Authorizing widespread use would have cost researchers that essential opportunity.

    The article is worth reading. It’s critical of the WHO but does include that organization’s point of view. My TLDR would be that regulators are much more concerned about approving a treatment that harms people than they are about doing nothing and passively allowing people to be harmed.